Eliminate the DA - Malema

[3G4me]

This is a typical US or THEM argument based on a false threat. Looking throughout history, this tactic has been used and continues to be used effectively.

Problem is, the ANC is more of a threat to itself than anyone else. Unless the DA starts murdering ANC members, or their supporters, there is no threat to eliminate. There is only competition, and not much of that either. I certainly hope everyone sees it for what it is.

Ahh, but in most ANC youth minds, competition = anti revolutionary = threat. So in other words, all competition must be eliminated.

We must remember, the likes of Julius Malema and most of the youth league never had a chance to participate fully in their so called "revolution", so they need to create their own in order to make them seem important.

IDIOTS!!!! Idle hands with too much time and being paid to do nothing is what creates these maniacs.

 

[Albereth]

How did he steal billions? It's a pity this Malema guy is such a loose cannon, at least he's highlighting the problems with the current government rather than going on holidays.

Billions? By agreeing to a flawed arms deal that syphoned billions of rands into the coffers of a few countries and taking a little 'gratuity' on the side to facilitate that process.

 

[gpe]

Malema is mickey mouse, he's about as qualified as a Church of Scientology member. The only reason the ANC youth league gets coverage is because of the political affiliations to the SABC who glamorize him. What struggle was he in???

3G4me:

We must remember, the likes of Julius Malema and most of the youth league never had a chance to participate fully in their so called "revolution", so they need to create their own in order to make them seem important.

Exactly that

 

[dlk001]

We must remember, the likes of Julius Malema and most of the youth league never had a chance to participate fully in their so called "revolution", so they need to create their own in order to make them seem important.

That's true! Malema has only one struggle, its passing a school grade!

 

[dlk001]

Malema is mickey mouse, he's about as qualified as a Church of Scientology member.

Don't elevate him to Tom Cruise status!

 

[oronte]

I agree - let's eliminate the DA, but let's also eliminate the ANC, SACP, ID... all of them. Wouldn't it be great if we could start again with new parties? We have a great constitution and a good judicial system, but all of these parties (even the ones that sprang up after 1994) carry too much baggage. A clean slate would be nice, but alas, impossible.

 

[Fuma]

I think you guys don't understand something. this Malema guy gets told what/what not to say. So it doesn't matter who the ANCYL "leader" is.

Someone is behind all this. I have a feeling it COSATU,SACP, and Zuma's people!

 

[oronte]

This country has 2 yrs left at best and then we will be in a situation with one mouse (yes he is a mouse) ruling for the next 30 yrs. It is the way of Africa.

Your optimism is truly encouraging. Robert Mugabe and others like him only happen because people stop participating in their democracies. If there had been some kind of sizable opposition the first time he amended the constitution to increase his term limit Zimbabwe may not be in the lamentable state its in. As long as South Africans keep questioning and discussing the issues, it won't happen here. If you're displeased then make your voice heard in the only way that it really counts in a democracy - vote in the next election and encourage everyone you know to vote too. If the ANC is prevented at least from getting a two-thirds majority then our constitution remains relatively safe from any number of idiotic ideas JZ may come up with. Vote for anyone else, even if you don't like them, the more different voices in parliament the better.

 

[Turiko]

Your optimism is truly encouraging. Robert Mugabe and others like him only happen because people stop participating in their democracies. If there had been some kind of sizable opposition the first time he amended the constitution to increase his term limit Zimbabwe may not be in the lamentable state its in. As long as South Africans keep questioning and discussing the issues, it won't happen here. If you're displeased then make your voice heard in the only way that it really counts in a democracy - vote in the next election and encourage everyone you know to vote too. If the ANC is prevented at least from getting a two-thirds majority then our constitution remains relatively safe from any number of idiotic ideas JZ may come up with. Vote for anyone else, even if you don't like them, the more different voices in parliament the better.

The problem is I've heard all of this before. Especially

If the ANC is prevented at least from getting a two-thirds majority then our constitution remains relatively safe from any number of idiotic ideas <insert prez name here> may come up with.

Sorry ole chap, voted in the early years, it helped absolutely bugger-all. What is the point of voting now when there will be a war if JZ doesn't become prez? It's like farting against thunder!

The ANC do what they like regardless if they have 2/3 or not. That small little detail ain't gonna stop them

 

[HakSaw]

Don't elevate him to Tom Cruise status!

Elevate and Tom Cruise together in one sentence just doesn't work

 

[Turiko]

Tom Cruise is truly an evil man

 

[oronte]

The problem is I've heard all of this before. Especially

Sorry ole chap, voted in the early years, it helped absolutely bugger-all. What is the point of voting now when there will be a war if JZ doesn't become prez? It's like farting against thunder!

The ANC do what they like regardless if they have 2/3 or not. That small little detail ain't gonna stop them

Sorry I'm kind of hijacking this thread, but quite wrong. The 1999 American election proved that every vote counts. Yes JZ will probably be president, but you're missing the point of the 2/3 majority. The constitution can only be changed by a 2/3 majority, so far the ANC haven't proposed any really objectionable ammendments, but knowing the growing hatred of JZ and others in the*ANC of the media, for example, who's to say he won't try to reduce media rights? All the other things the ANC does can be overturned by the judiary, but an ammendment to the constitution, once done cannot be easily undone. That's why every vote counts and ensuring there are more diverse voices in parliament is so important, not just now but in every election. The government of national unity is an excellent concept but if one party holds all the power (with no effective opposition) then it's really quite pointless.

And yes, Tom Cruise is quite evil.

 

[kilps]

Sorry ole chap, voted in the early years, it helped absolutely bugger-all. What is the point of voting now when there will be a war if JZ doesn't become prez? It's like farting against thunder!

So wait a second ... you sit here complaining like hell but reckon that voting is going to get you no-where? That is completely useless ... even if you think there isn't a party which represents you then go and spoil your ballot or something - but to say they do this badly when you can't be bothered to vote is hypocritical.

With the mess in the ANC at the moment I do think that them loosing their 2/3rds majority is completely possible ... with the stakes so high we need as many people as possible to go out and vote...

 

[semiautomatix]

Don't elevate him to Tom Cruise status!

Can't wait to see him jumping up and down on Noeleen's couch!

 

[marine1]

Can't wait to see him jumping up and down on Noeleen's couch!

Or from a tree

 

[LazyLion]

It is in the ANC's interests to perpetuate "the struggle" (or the revolution, or whatever you want to call it). For several reasons...

1) it is an attempt to unify the non-white (read black) people under one banner. There is strength in numbers... but it is really a way of controlling the people. If a black person does not agree with the official policy then he is challenged as being anti-the-revolution or even worse an "informer" (you remember what happened to the "informers" during the '80s?). As long as there is a "struggle", there is the underlying sense that "we have not yet arrived" or "there is still more work to be done" or "the revolution is not yet won". I know this is a paradox (the revolution won / not yet won), but it makes sense to them from a struggle point of view.

2) it is a justification for drastic measures, even violence. It is ok to kill in the name of the struggle (or to blow people up in the name of the struggle). The ends justify the means. Apparently Mandela was always against this until they gave in to the armed struggle, but the juggernaut has now got far too much momentum to be stopped. The ANC youth league are the cannon fodder of the ruling elite. They can be called upon to die in the name of the struggle should the need ever arise. They are and will be the South Africa version of Mugabe's War Veterans. This is the philosophy behind the Islamic terrorists and it pervades our society as well. You all know the rumour/legend of the "night of the long knives" which would supposedly be carried out by the ANC's shock troops should there ever come about a threat that the "struggle" is about to be lost (the ANC would lose ruling power).

3) It is designed to keep the whites in a state of fear/guilt. We will be meek and placid as long as this "struggle" exists. And to go against it or to speak against it means you are a racist who wants to disenfranchise the African people again and take them back to the days of colonialism. Never mind that you SAY that you don't want that. The problem is you are a closet racist and a product of the Afrikaner Calvinistic Apartheid Colonial System. You will never be free of this (no matter if you are Portuguese, Greek, English or American). You are white... and your skin is a betrayal of your racist underlying tendencies. They know you are sorry about it, but only the next generation will be free of those tendencies (and the next generation will never arrive... because the struggle never ends).

4) It is a political statement to the UN and to the World that they won this "war" and that the threat still remains... the threat of colonialism still remains in Zimbabwe 30 years after the "war" and despite the fact that there is not one remaining colonial territory in Africa and has not been for 20 years or more. It is warning to the rest of the world not to interfere.

So people like Julius Malema and his cronies know exactly what they are doing. It is a calculated move. And it smacks of exactly the same tactics that the Marxists used in Tsarist Russia just before and after the revolution. History is doomed to repeat itself.

...and I consider myself a moderate, reasonably optimistic person... but this much... that I have just typed is obvious to me... and to those with just a little bit of common sense. I pray that the more moderate elements in the ANC can win out over these "revolutionaries" because now... it is the only hope we have.

 

[dlk001]

Can't wait to see him jumping up and down on Noeleen's couch!

Nolean would eliminate him!

 

[G2V]

This is how Hitler and Stalin started off - the rest is history.

Everybody condemned their revolutionary statements, but nobody and no government did anything about them until it was too late.

If Malema is allowed to carry on feeding the uneducated masses with these sick and populist statements without any action from the current powers in the ANC then SA is doomed.

 

[semiautomatix]

It is in the ANC's interests to perpetuate "the struggle" (or the revolution, or whatever you want to call it). For several reasons...

2) it is a justification for drastic measures, even violence. It is ok to kill in the name of the struggle (or to blow people up in the name of the struggle). The ends justify the means. Apparently Mandela was always against this until they gave in to the armed struggle, but the juggernaut has now got far too much momentum to be stopped. The ANC youth league are the cannon fodder of the ruling elite. They can be called upon to die in the name of the struggle should the need ever arise. They are and will be the South Africa version of Mugabe's War Veterans. This is the philosophy behind the Islamic terrorists and it pervades our society as well. You all know the rumour/legend of the "night of the long knives" which would supposedly be carried out by the ANC's shock troops should there ever come about a threat that the "struggle" is about to be lost (the ANC would lose ruling power).

And these idiots are convincing more and more South Africans that this country is one step away from becoming Zimbabwe. With an ever depleting European population the tell tale signs are becoming more obvious. Let hope Mamela and his cronies are merely loose cannons in the ANC and will never amount to positions of real power.

 

[general_koffi]

This is how Hitler and Stalin started off - the rest is history.

Everybody condemned their revolutionary statements, but nobody and no government did anything about them until it was too late.

If Malema is allowed to carry on feeding the uneducated masses with these sick and populist statements without any action from the current powers in the ANC then SA is doomed.

A very small minority of potty-mouthed politicians actually walk their talk.

Consider the political discourse around the time F Roosevelt become US President. (And served for nearly four terms.)

It isn't common knowledge today because Roosevelt was one of the many "potential tyrants" that didn't become one.

Besides, the ANCYL are like a caged monkey that embarrasses its master by throwing excrement at polite company. No one takes them seriously for good reason.