Enough

Mux goto the post where a few proxy lists are mentioned. Utelise the WHOIS function on the page to check the IP's owners. They are the owners - its in black and white.

(It is illegal if you obtain a means of using a company's proxy without their knowledge, however this would not be considered a public proxy. I think this is where you are confusing the issue. Go ahead and call one of the listed ISPs if you need reassurance about this.)
Err we are talking about the proxies listed on the "public" proxy lists, which are 100% what you describe above as being a companies proxy being used without their knowledge.

I asked in previouse posts for people to indicate something which sais they can use a specific proxy (in your case your post advertising your proxy for use... not other companies)... responces ---> 0.
 
>I am fully entitled to allow anyone I wish to use it. I am fully aware that everyone will be accessing it and therefore no law is broken.

You may want to check out the REGULATION OF INTERCEPTION OF COMMUNICATIONS AND PROVISION OF COMMUNICATION-RELATED INFORMATION ACT specifically this section: http://www.internet.org.za/ricpci.html#informationtobeobtainedandkeptbycertaintelecommunicationserviceproviders

to err is human - to totally **** things up requires a pc.
 
And just incase you wana say that you arent a telecommunications provider:

"telecommunication service provider" means any—
(a) person who provides a telecommunication service under and in accordance with a telecommunication service licence issued to such person under Chapter V of the Telecommunications Act, and includes any person who provides—
(i) a local access telecommunication service, public pay-telephone service, <b>value-added network service</b> or private telecommunication network as defined in the Telecommunications Act; or
(ii) any other telecommunication service licensed or deemed to be licensed or exempted from being licensed as such in terms of the Telecommunications Act; and

to err is human - to totally **** things up requires a pc.
 
This is all very well and good but where does it state you need a VANS license to run or access a proxy server? If this were the case then every company in SA running a proxy server is breaking the law.
 
was ment to tie up with the previouse post defining what a telecommunications providor was [;)]

to err is human - to totally **** things up requires a pc.
 
This is starting to get somewhat daft, and I get the feeling the legal quotes are completely out of context. If you extrapolate depach's logic the end result is that anything that offers a "service" and happens to hook into a network automatically makes you a telecommunication entity. So I guess we should all get rid of our fax machines, answering machines, web servers, irc servers and so on. Since adding value seems to be a big no no. And although depach may be right, I doubt it is how this law was intended to be interpreted.

As for the public proxy servers. If the owners did not want you to use them they would be shut down pretty quick. Sure some of them may be botched configs, but as soon as a few people start using them they will be noticed and fixed.

The hacking scare stuff I doubt it would hold up either. I would expect in order for a case to be made there would at least be a requirement that the proxy owner attempted to secure the service in some way, otherwise I could make a killing buy putting up a website that was publicly accessible and then proceed to sue everyone who happened to wander onto it.

It is sad that to overcome the unreasonable limitations placed on the Telkoms ADSL service people are driven to find ways to enhance their experience. It in no way however justifies or condones criminal activity, so my advice is that if you are going to use a proxy be sensible about it. If the proxy does not require usernames/passwords and stays online for more than a week it should be safe to assume it is public, and has been specifically set up that way.
 
in short, by using a "public proxy" (which they aren't), you are making unauthorized use of another company's resources.

what you people clearly cannot comprehend is the fact that PUBLIC PROXY means, it doesnt have a deny list.. it is open (misconfigured) and anyone can make use of it.

PUBLIC PROXY DOES NOT(!) MEAN ITS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
 
We shall agree to disagree then (and it would appear just about everyone disagrees with you). I interpret public proxies to be open to the public. If I choose to use one I shall do so until informed to desist by the owner of said proxy or my service provider.

Have a nice day.
 
deaspach u are agrueing a looseing battle , do u know what public free proxys are . They are free and public . what does public and free mean
 
Depach is arguing that the very purpose of the technology makes it illegal... that makes no sense.

Proxies are meant to be used to relay traffic, so how could using one be illegal if it is made available, serving exactly the purpose it was designed for.

It is totally different to gaining unauthorised access to a company network and abusing it. It's all about intent, and no wrongful intent is present here.

We are simply using a service made available, in exactly the manner intended.

<font color="green">Video didn't kill the radio star...</font id="green"> <font color="red">Telkom did</font id="red">
 
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