Enterprise Server -- Advice please

b@nD said:
I am not sure I understand the accepted wisdom that a Server does not need any GUI tools ?
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Faster, more lean machines

M$ Server 2008 R2 uses a GUI -- perhaps M$ have not yet heard of this accepted "wisdom" ????
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I am sure they have, but I suppose this is the reason 90% of the worlds super computers run Linux and 1% of them run Windows.

Is it perhaps that all sorts of weird and arcane console text commands are IT Geek EGO candy ?
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No, its about efficiency, stability and power.

With comments like yours you still have a long way to go before you understand IT. IT is not about pretty pictures for you to click on. Good luck with that journey.
 
For a beginner "webmin" can be helpful as you can configure quite a lot on that box by mouse clicking. ;)

When I started with Linux in 1998 (SuSE 5.3) I was happy to have YaST. Nowadays YaST and OpenSuSE are no go's for me.

Let's help this dude to get rid of Windows or MacOS. ;)

I guess 99,9% of all MacOS X users on earth don't know for what the Terminal is. :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_(OS_X)

@b@nD
Start with something which is more common. Start with Debian, CentOS, Fedora or Ubuntu.
 
Old & perhaps forgotten

ponder said:
I honestly don't think linux is for this dude, he should stick to windows and click away.
The cli is way more powerful than what any gui will ever offer you.
Even MS & it's users have been having it with Powershell,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell
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Maybe you guys can correct me
Looking at other commercial offerings and whether they had any kind of "GUI"

SGI IRIX

IBM AIX

SUN SOLARIS

OK that is just a few

I have not put in HP-UX or TRU-64 or a bunch of others ( Mac-OS is based on FreeBSD )

but you get the drift

NOW please tell me again ??????
 
Do a unix server install and see what you get, do a linux server install and see what you get.

The X server is not part of the core os and only installed in a workstation/desktop environment as layer running on top of the os. These are the pictures you will find on the net.

Walk into any data centre and try find a box running X Server.


Windows Server 8 won't have a gui by default and MS does not recommend it either although it's still optional. They recon powershell & remote management is the way to go.
http://redmondmag.com/blogs/it-decision-maker/2012/01/the-gui-on-the-way-out.aspx
http://www.itworld.com/virtualization/203199/windows-server-8-highlights-upcoming-server-os
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/title-windows-server-8-microsoft-server-fork

They've seen the light, start getting use to it I recon.
 
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Old dude -- New suit

ponder said:
Windows Server 8 won't have a gui by default and MS does not recommend it either although it's still optional. They recon powershell & remote management is the way to go.

They've seen the light, start getting use to it I recon.
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The "light" is not to do with "using up resources" ["Faster, more lean machines"] but more to do with a specific way of seeing the [IT] World
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Where M$ fits into it.
["I suppose this is the reason 90% of the worlds super computers run Linux and 1% of them run Windows."]

A core server model with clients -- mainframe and terminals ...... ??????
 
... and you also need to understand how to work with editors like VI to edit configuration files through a SSH connection to the *nix server.

Under SunOS with the CDE desktop environment on a workstation you have Admintool, which is a GUI for Systemadminstration, but on data centre servers it is not recomended to run graphical user interfaces like the XWindow Sytem.

Just start and install a good documented Linux Distribution. After successfuly installation of Linux and the Database Server you can dive deeper into details. Just start now before everybody and everything confuses you. Just start and keep in mind that the only solution is to adminstrate a Linux server is the command line to screw under the engine hood.
 
b@nD said:
The "light" is not to do with "using up resources"
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I never said it was. X server also brings in some security related issues.

Dude, keep on arguing until you are blue in the face. It is what it is. Use it, don't use it, your choice at the end of the day.
 
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b@nD said:
Maybe you guys can correct me
Looking at other commercial offerings and whether they had any kind of "GUI"

SGI IRIX

IBM AIX

SUN SOLARIS

OK that is just a few

I have not put in HP-UX or TRU-64 or a bunch of others ( Mac-OS is based on FreeBSD )

but you get the drift

NOW please tell me again ??????
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Yaaah. You still have a very very long way to go in IT. lol. If you grow beyond being an entry level PC technician one day you are going to look back at this thread with embarrassment.

I manage roughly a 90 servers (in datacenters & corporate offices) at the moment. All except 2 windows servers have no gui.

Ill let you figure out your first one by yourself :) You and your gui...
 
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