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PatchTuesday
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That's honestly a waste of money OP.
That card released in 2008/9 I think, it's so old it's not worth it. I'll have a look online when I get a moment to assist if someone hasn't already by then. If you could stretch your budget a bit more
Edit : I'd say go for something like a gt1030 gddr5 version
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Avoid the ones that says it has DDR4 memory modules. Your other option is to look at Carbonite for a second hand card. Probably no warranty on those but price to performance should be well worth it if you can find the right card
Otherwise just wait it out a while, since it's a terrible time to buy
That card released in 2008/9 I think, it's so old it's not worth it. I'll have a look online when I get a moment to assist if someone hasn't already by then. If you could stretch your budget a bit more
Edit : I'd say go for something like a gt1030 gddr5 version
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Avoid the ones that says it has DDR4 memory modules. Your other option is to look at Carbonite for a second hand card. Probably no warranty on those but price to performance should be well worth it if you can find the right card
Otherwise just wait it out a while, since it's a terrible time to buy
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chickenbeef
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Can get a GT1030 for that price
Agent67
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I agree with @animehero here, I'd try going for the GT 1030. It should be able to play lego games, maybe Fortnite as well if that's what they're into?
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Agent67
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It should last you for a while until the kids want to play more modern games. But if I may ask what is your CPU and RAM? Cause they also play a role in running a game.
grok
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LOL I still have a GTS450 in my old games PC, which plays Mein Kampf without any issues..
Johnatan56
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What CPU do you have? Might be better to get an AMD apu and then in a year or two get a proper graphics card once prices are more stable.
PatchTuesday
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OP let us know the rest of the system specs as others have mentioned so we could help you figure stuff out.
Also what is berghieonline ? That screams scam, I wouldn't use that site for anything
Also what is berghieonline ? That screams scam, I wouldn't use that site for anything
Corelli
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Gt 730 and gt 1030 is lowest you want to go.
If you have a 4th gen cpu you will have intel hd 4600 gfx. Its pretty darn fast. If newer you may have the uhd 630 card gfx. Both are decent for gaming. The 4600 kicks rubbish cards like the gt 210 and 710.
You would be better off getting 16gb of ram and a decent ssd like a samsung evo or crucial mx (wd blue good too). That will improve overall gameplay.
4gb of ram is too low. Crucial works nice. Get 16gb. I wont get less on windows 10, but 8gb would be pushing it.
U would also change the cpu. Get an i5 cpu.
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So ram first and then cpu. 4gb is way way to low.
If you have a 4th gen cpu you will have intel hd 4600 gfx. Its pretty darn fast. If newer you may have the uhd 630 card gfx. Both are decent for gaming. The 4600 kicks rubbish cards like the gt 210 and 710.
You would be better off getting 16gb of ram and a decent ssd like a samsung evo or crucial mx (wd blue good too). That will improve overall gameplay.
4gb of ram is too low. Crucial works nice. Get 16gb. I wont get less on windows 10, but 8gb would be pushing it.
U would also change the cpu. Get an i5 cpu.
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So ram first and then cpu. 4gb is way way to low.
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No not a GT730, with that you may as well just go onboard.
Corelli
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I play world of tanks, minecraft, skyrim and oblivion with basically...
Hp 800 g1
I5-4550
16gb of ram ddr3 1600
Samsung evo ssd
Intel hd 4600 onboard
And can run medium or more depends on game. Also ure res. 1600x900
Hp 800 g1
I5-4550
16gb of ram ddr3 1600
Samsung evo ssd
Intel hd 4600 onboard
And can run medium or more depends on game. Also ure res. 1600x900
Corelli
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I only saw his post afterward.
Gt 1030 would be best. The GT730 would lose to uhd 630
4gb ram is nono and pentium cpu too. Get a crucial 8gb chip (check compatibility first via their site). Then change the cpu next. I7 is great, i5 is ok.
PatchTuesday
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Pentium G6405 is 10th Gen.
I agree that you'd be better off getting a dedicated GPU and looking at upgrading CPU and ram at a later stage
GT1030 2gb gddr5 would be the best way to go for now
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Looks like they are around the R2000 mark
I agree that you'd be better off getting a dedicated GPU and looking at upgrading CPU and ram at a later stage
GT1030 2gb gddr5 would be the best way to go for now
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Looks like they are around the R2000 mark
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Corelli
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Getting a dedicated gpu with only 4gb of ram is a no no. Windows 10 needs 16gb to function.
Its not really designed to run on less. Yet it allows you to.
Thats the biggest bottleneck at the moment.
The cpu passes calculations thru the memory to the gfx card and vice versa. A small pipe would drop your capacity and a bigger pipe would allow it to flow correctly. The ram is that pipe
The system will bottleneck with 4gb of ram.
Its not really designed to run on less. Yet it allows you to.
Thats the biggest bottleneck at the moment.
The cpu passes calculations thru the memory to the gfx card and vice versa. A small pipe would drop your capacity and a bigger pipe would allow it to flow correctly. The ram is that pipe
The system will bottleneck with 4gb of ram.
Corelli
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You would get a 100% graphics boost from pentium (using uhd 610 gfx) to the i5 10400 (uhd 630 gfx). Remember with Intel the gfx processor is part of the cpu now. The pentium is also a dual core (4 threads) where the i5 id six core (12 threads).
However ram is your main bottleneck. Then gfx card. 4gb just aint enough. And any idiot that tells you it is, has no idea what they are talking about. It would explain why they are number gizzilion when they game.
Gaming is about having the right specs, feel, motivation. You dont need the latest, however you need to cover the basics.
Ure cpu can do it, but i5 is much better. 4gb of ram is great for typing, but 16gb is better for gameplay, nvidia quadro is worse for gameplay but better for cad as it can push calculations which will cause gaming cards to fall over.
Everything has a reason. 4gb isnt enough. Get more ram and then a graphics card.
Alternatively get him an xbox one s and plug it into the pc monitor. You wont have to worry about upgrades and just buy him games on STEAM. Way cheaper than a gaming store.
However ram is your main bottleneck. Then gfx card. 4gb just aint enough. And any idiot that tells you it is, has no idea what they are talking about. It would explain why they are number gizzilion when they game.
Gaming is about having the right specs, feel, motivation. You dont need the latest, however you need to cover the basics.
Ure cpu can do it, but i5 is much better. 4gb of ram is great for typing, but 16gb is better for gameplay, nvidia quadro is worse for gameplay but better for cad as it can push calculations which will cause gaming cards to fall over.
Everything has a reason. 4gb isnt enough. Get more ram and then a graphics card.
Alternatively get him an xbox one s and plug it into the pc monitor. You wont have to worry about upgrades and just buy him games on STEAM. Way cheaper than a gaming store.
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PatchTuesday
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I agree that depending on the applications used, 4gb ram would be pushing it and OP would benefit for increasing this.
Discrete/dedicated GPU’s use their own VRAM, most notably my mention of getting gddr5 vs ddr4 and don’t rely as heavily on system ram. Adding more ram to an Intel igpu setup(or Amds APU's) however makes a world of difference as the igpu shares system memory, even if the igpu itself has an upper limit of what's available to use (typically a small portion of available memory dedicated to that function). Using a dedicated card on the other hand frees up the system ram that the igpu would have used so windows can chew up all 4gb xD
It comes down to what OP is willing to spend on upgrades. A RAM increase would see overall system performance increase as you multi task.CPU upgrade would be nice but it's pretty costly. Does the OP just want a nice bump in graphics fidelity or a smoother experience, and what is he willing to spend overall.
Regarding Raru, they might be cheaper but I've excluded them and Evetech from my links above because of the after sales service. You might save a few bucks on purchasing and it might never give you issues but heaven forbid you need to RMA something with them (this is off topic though)
Oh if you are interested, Steve at GN did a piece on how much of a difference gddr5 vs ddr4 affects the 1030. It's not to prove any kind of points, I just thought it's a good watch
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Ok so the cpu is set in stone so not gonna touch on that.
4GB is barely enough for windows, please get another 4gb stick so you have 8gb running in dual channel configuration.
Seeing as the output will be 720p test roblox/lego/minecraft etc using the onboard integrated gpu and see what fps you get. The UHD610 is no racehorse though. If it's bad then relook the gpu situation.
Corelli
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Get him a nice mouse instead. Entry logitech ones are fine
But for a small form factor nothing beats the gt1030. It is a great suggestion.
I do like the GT 1030. 30w of power usage and potent. If you have more powerful psu then more up.
But for a small form factor nothing beats the gt1030. It is a great suggestion.