Eskom might push back coal power station shutdowns

[Bigjay84]

You can't keep the lights on with the stations you have, only a moron would want to switch off coal fired stations to be green, but then we are dealing with the rocket scientists at the ANC

 

[Lupus]

You can't keep the lights on with the stations you have, only a moron would want to switch off coal fired stations to be green, but then we are dealing with the rocket scientists at the ANC

The world... They are switching off coal around the world, cause they are saying look we have 31GW of wind, sure it only generates 10GW at most, but we have 31GW

 

[mpdjhb]

Nuclear is by far and away the best option for now. Second is RE.
Dirty coal is a death sentence to the planet and we should be working to stop using those stations.

 

[Lupus]

Nuclear is by far and away the best option for now. Second is RE.
Dirty coal is a death sentence to the planet and we should be working to stop using those stations.

We would've been there, if the world hadn't had a sh#434 fit over nuclear, I mean even the biggest worry nuclear waste is less harmful than the other wastes produced by energy.

 

[PsyWulf]

We would've been there, if the world hadn't had a sh#434 fit over nuclear, I mean even the biggest worry nuclear waste is less harmful than the other wastes produced by energy.

This is again another case of people sticking their entitled crybaby asses in places they don't understand and making it everybody's issue

The spent-fuel and risks are so minor it's a crime not to use it

 

[Lupus]

This is again another case of people sticking their entitled crybaby asses in places they don't understand and making it everybody's issue

The spent-fuel and risks are so minor it's a crime not to use it

Yup especially since it can even be reused a few times, as the energy density of Uranium is incredibly high as well, also since the 1950s the entire nuclear waste can be stored on a football field, we also can easily track and trace it. Not compared to mecury, cobalt and various other deadly chemicals we can't easily sort out.
Yet radiation gets the bad rap?

 

[wingnut771]

Yup especially since it can even be reused a few times, as the energy density of Uranium is incredibly high as well, also since the 1950s the entire nuclear waste can be stored on a football field, we also can easily track and trace it. Not compared to mecury, cobalt and various other deadly chemicals we can't easily sort out.
Yet radiation gets the bad rap?

You're neglecting to mention that the football field needs to last 100 000 years.

 

[Lupus]

You're neglecting to mention that the football field needs to last 100 000 years.

You know mecury, cadium, arsenic, lead and such don't degrade at all, yet no-one is like what is happening to that.

 

[grok]

...didn't they get $8 billion from the USA or Europe to move towards cleaner energy?

Yeah but that's just for new cars, TIA remember!

 

[Zophos]

The problem with weather is that it is pretty much impossible to forecast more than about a week ahead since it is a chaotic system (

watch from 4:42 to 8:15 for adequate background, 7:45 - 8:02 for weather specific)

And yet this IS predictable and available ...

 

[Zophos]

The world... They are switching off coal around the world, cause they are saying look we have 31GW of wind, sure it only generates 10GW at most, but we have 31GW

Jirre, you should try and read more international news rather than assuming...

 

[Quicks]

I thought the ANC cares about people health and health care is that not why they introduce stuff like NHI and sugar Tax. But do not care about the oxygen you breath apparently.

 

[G.A.S]

And yet this IS predictable and available ...

Tides is not weather... but tidal renewal energy is still in its infancy.

 

[Zophos]

Tides is not weather... but tidal renewal energy is still in its infancy.

First installation was in 2007. Not really infancy...

Also a fast developing option.

https://ec.europa.eu/research-and-i...ows-generate-huge-potential-clean-electricity

Edit: If you add hydrogen projects to this mix, future of energy looks very different, and the solar/wind argument becomes a bit moot.

 

[G.A.S]

First installation was in 2007. Not really infancy...

Also a fast developing option.

https://ec.europa.eu/research-and-i...ows-generate-huge-potential-clean-electricity

Edit: If you add hydrogen projects to this mix, future of energy looks very different, and the solar/wind argument becomes a bit moot.

I meant infancy in terms of production (it is not mass scale yet), adoption (not widely adopted) etc. etc. It it a technology that still has to proof itself on a large scale (i.e. having GW's of installed capacity).

As for solar/wind - the main solution there is diversification, interconnects and a large grid, you can eliminate a lot of the intermittency with a diversified generation (and storage) base (including more than just solar and wind).

 

[itareanlnotani]

We would've been there, if the world hadn't had a sh#434 fit over nuclear, I mean even the biggest worry nuclear waste is less harmful than the other wastes produced by energy.

Nuclear takes 20 years to build.


Takes us that long to build a coal station. Solar PV, Wind can be built in months.
CSP is a better replacement for Nuclear. Same output, none of the risks.

 

[RVQ]

Its not a case of might, its have to.

The ANC are actively blocking new generation and resisting IPPs because of the tenders they getting from the old coal stations. They will have be run hard until they catastrophically fail, there's only so many patches you can stick on them. The ANC will then drive to create tenders from those dead horses.... it only changes when the ANC loses the majority vote.

 

[sdrawk]

Yeah...
I like Cyril's plan, I really do. I hope it actually gets implemented and we see wind and solar farms pop up everywhere and loadshedding/rolling blackouts become a thing of the past.

But lol, same guy promised us smart cities and bullet trains though and I don't see those or even a hint of them.

Best way to solve loadshedding is to collectively vote someone else into power (Sorry Squirrel, you are let down by your team)

 

[Oldfut]

Yeah...
I like Cyril's plan, I really do. I hope it actually gets implemented and we see wind and solar farms pop up everywhere and loadshedding/rolling blackouts become a thing of the past.

But lol, same guy promised us smart cities and bullet trains though and I don't see those or even a hint of them.

Best way to solve loadshedding is to collectively vote someone else into power (Sorry Squirrel, you are let down by your team)

Agreed BUT I suspect that there will be BBBEE and ANC gatekeepers as to who can provide this power.

 

[Johnatan56]

Than we can pull a Germany and power them all up again when the poo poo hits the wind turbines.

You mean hits the gas prices.

Anyways, doesn't really change net zero emissions, we're talking about 8GW if and when needed, not running constantly. Still on track to phase it out by 2030 (brought forward from 2038), remember that they were just mothballing them early as gas prices were low, renewable is cheap, so wasn't financially viable to run them (same happened in a lot of the US, also for nuclear).

Reopening European coal plants won't sink climate goals

Germany and other E.U. nations are dusting off old coal plants amid the energy crisis. That will raise emissions, but not enough to threaten Europe's

www.eenews.net