Ethernet Surge Protector

dd1313

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Hey guys.

I am interested to know if installers are using these protectors for installation.I have seen a few installs in Durban and I don't see them installed.
Ubiquiti Surge Arrestor

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DD
 
Find an APC supplier and there are lots of options for surge protection.
 
You are supposed to put surge protection at the injector and at the device externally. Most people rely on the built in surge protection at the injector (assuming it has) and use shielded cable. The only reason not to install the external device is you are not aware of the product, or you can not afford to increase client installation costs.
 
I am interested to know if installers are using these protectors for installation.I have seen a few installs in Durban and I don't see them installed.
Specifications make a critically important point. It is not obvious if you do not know how all surge protection works. The Ubiquiti must be earthed via the pole. If that pole is not properly connected to earth (as required by codes and common sense), then the Ubiquiti does not do anything useful.

Of course, an informed installation routes that ethernet down to earth before that wire rises back up to enter the building. That Ubiquiti is best located where the ethernet wire drops down to be adjacent to single point earth ground. So that a less than 3 meter connection to earth can be achieved there.

Protection systems require the pole to be earthed. And the incoming ethernet wire to connect to earth via a protector just before entering the building. The Ubiquiti can be effective if one is at both locations.

What makes an Ubiquiti so effective? Like all protectors, it is only as effective as its earth ground. A comment about another protector that does not have and will not discuss the most critically important component in every protection system.
 
Option: use 2 ethernet to fibre converters and piece of fibre, between these converters, bit of overkill, but then you have a "safe" side that you can put on ups.
 
Option: use 2 ethernet to fibre converters and piece of fibre, between these converters, bit of overkill, but then you have a "safe" side that you can put on ups.

And how do you ground & power the media converters and UBNT Radio ?
 
And how do you ground & power the media converters and UBNT Radio ?
Grounding a potential victim only guarantees it will be a victim. Protection is about grounding a surge current - not electronics.

BTW, both ends of a fiber need electrical power. Any protection provided by fiber is compromised by power connections.
 
Grounding a potential victim only guarantees it will be a victim. Protection is about grounding a surge current - not electronics.

BTW, both ends of a fiber need electrical power. Any protection provided by fiber is compromised by power connections.

Not if the "safe" side is on the clean power setup, the idea is to have a seperate power solution for the switches, routers and other equipment. So you plug your fibre converter and all that in on the safe circuit.

Then your LAN is isolated from the external elements.

So the problem comes in with the WAN part, so only solution I have/had was to connect cheap DSL router and the external fibre converter to the WAN DSL/WiFi, and if lightning strike, or Eskom power surge, it only screw up the one fibre converter and cheap DSL router, the propper router and wifi etc, is powered on the safe side, and there is no direct connection from outside world via telephone line or device on the roof to the safe network.
 
Not if the "safe" side is on the clean power setup, the idea is to have a seperate power solution for the switches, routers and other equipment. So you plug your fibre converter and all that in on the safe circuit.
How is it put on another circuit? That 'other' power source must be from some other transformer on some other street. Obviously that is not possible. No separation exists when both power circuits are from the same mains box, same safety ground, and same AC utility.

The naive assume protection in terms of what is adjacent. Protection is about the entire structure, all wires incoming to that structure, and earth ground beneath and around that structure. If perspective is less than that, then basic concepts for protection and electricity have not been learned.

An inspection must include numerous other electrical conductors including pipes, bricks, ducts, linoleum tile, wood studs ... yes all are also electrical conductors. As is made obvious when taught what Ben Franklin demonstrated in 1752. A surge was connected to earth by an electrical conductor - a wooden church steeple.

Any solution that claims to block or isolate a surge is bogus. That isolation is only supplemental. It works when a primary and well proven solution is first implemented. Even telcos using fiber optics still use this other solution that also makes copper wire surges irrelevant.

Ubiquiti solution uses this well proven solution IF other and most critically important conditions are meet. Using technology well proven by over 100 years of science and experience. A fiber optic solution also needs that solution. For many reasons. Including a reality - power to both ends connect to a same power source even if both are via separate breakers.

If a well proven soution is implemented, then other concerns such as WAN/LAN, etc are also solved. But again, a proven solution means viewing in terms of the entire structure, every incoming cable, and surrounding ground.
 
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Sjoe, you like to type a moer off an essay!

My setup look like this, I have a battery bank, solar panels, a diesel genny, and a inverter. This give me a clean seperate circuit with power (not from council). This circuit power all my IT equipment.

Then on the council power I have the geyser, stove, and airconditioners. I have a small Billion dsl router with the fibre converter. (Eskom side).

Never in my first piece of information I state its better than the Ubiquiti solution, I just said its another option to look at, as lightning strike cant go through fibre...
 
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