EU bans Glyphosate.

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EU has banned the use of cancer causing glyphosate as a weed killer on crops and public places such as parks and pavements.
This was after urine tests were done on European parliament members and the results showed 3 to 4 times the maximum allowed on all of them. Another test in the US showed that 93% of the population had excess amounts of glyphosate in their urine.
This ban includes the use of genetically modified seeds that contain weed killer.
I wonder what SA is doing about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATfcpkSvFvQ
 
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You would need to eat several tons of glyphosate laced food every single day for years to replicate the lab results which showed a cancer causing effect in Rats.
You are actually being exposed to hundreds of other trace amounts of toxins and poisons ever day as well.
The dose makes the poison.
I don't see them calling for bans on those?
 
LazyLion said:
You would need to eat several tons of glyphosate laced food every single day for years to replicate the lab results which showed a cancer causing effect in Rats.
You are actually being exposed to hundreds of other trace amounts of toxins and poisons ever day as well.
The dose makes the poison.
I don't see them calling for bans on those?
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We are not rats. Besides it's about damage, you can be exposed to y amount of x-rays for 10 years or 10y amount of x-rays for 1 year and your chances of developing cancer are about the same. Some poisons are the same.
 
Swa said:
We are not rats.
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The carcinogenic study was done on rats, if you are using the argument that "we are not rats" then the carcinogenic study is irrelevant to us and this thread is pointless.
Swa said:
Besides it's about damage, you can be exposed to y amount of x-rays for 10 years or 10y amount of x-rays for 1 year and your chances of developing cancer are about the same. Some poisons are the same.
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X-Rays are not a poison, they are a form of radiation.
Go and read a science text book.
 
LazyLion said:
The carcinogenic study was done on rats, if you are using the argument that "we are not rats" then the carcinogenic study is irrelevant to us and this thread is pointless.
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It's not pointless but you are directly extrapolating results of a rat study to humans to say the amount required to cause cancer is much higher. Physiology differs and besides rats live a few years, well before cancer usually develops in humans.

LazyLion said:
X-Rays are not a poison, they are a form of radiation.
Go and read a science text book.
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Swa said:
It's not pointless but you are directly extrapolating results of a rat study to humans to say the amount required to cause cancer is much higher. Physiology differs and besides rats live a few years, well before cancer usually develops in humans.
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I'm not the one extrapolating the study... I DON'T believe that glyphosate is dangerous, it's the crazies and nutjobs in your camp who love extrapolating it to say that it is dangerous.
The study force fed rats with huge amounts of glyphosate showing that it would take insane levels to be dangerous to any biological entity.
Seriously, if you know nothing about science and how studies on lab rats work, then rather just keep quiet.
 
LazyLion said:
You would need to eat several tons of glyphosate laced food every single day for years to replicate the lab results which showed a cancer causing effect in Rats.
You are actually being exposed to hundreds of other trace amounts of toxins and poisons ever day as well.
The dose makes the poison.
I don't see them calling for bans on those?
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//Evidence of cancers in people found links between non-Hodgkin lymphoma and glyphosate
exposure.//
Europe has a zero tolerance for cancer and thereby banned this stuff.
Taiwan returned tonnes of oats from the US due to glyphosate.
http://www.ecowatch.com/taiwan-reca...ted-from-u-s-after-detecting--1891145630.html
 
This could become interesting seeing that there is this idee that GM foods is the only way to feed the 'over populated' world.

Banning this stuff will course famines like the world haven't seen before across Europe.
 
Oopsie said:
//Evidence of cancers in people found links between non-Hodgkin lymphoma and glyphosate
exposure.//
Europe has a zero tolerance for cancer and thereby banned this stuff.
Taiwan returned tonnes of oats from the US due to glyphosate.
http://www.ecowatch.com/taiwan-reca...ted-from-u-s-after-detecting--1891145630.html
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1) Your own article admits that the Taiwanese watchdog knows that the dosage has to be "high" before any effects can be seen.
2) The detection of the Glyphosate is from a study PAID FOR by the lawyers of the plantiff.
3) The WHO has also said that Glyphosate is possibly carcinogenic, but only at extremely high levels. Their last study said that it was safe for human use.
4) If they don't use Glyphosate, they would have to use another pesticide, some of which are far more harmful!
5) These Eco sites and Anti-GMO groups betray their agenda because they only focus on Monsanto and GMO tech, and rarely ever mention other known carcinogens or toxins.
 
LazyLion said:
I'm not the one extrapolating the study... I DON'T believe that glyphosate is dangerous, it's the crazies and nutjobs in your camp who love extrapolating it to say that it is dangerous.
The study force fed rats with huge amounts of glyphosate showing that it would take insane levels to be dangerous to any biological entity.
Seriously, if you know nothing about science and how studies on lab rats work, then rather just keep quiet.
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Ok whatever floats your boat. Just glad they banned one more dangerous substance.

Oopsie said:
//Evidence of cancers in people found links between non-Hodgkin lymphoma and glyphosate
exposure.//
Europe has a zero tolerance for cancer and thereby banned this stuff.
Taiwan returned tonnes of oats from the US due to glyphosate.
http://www.ecowatch.com/taiwan-reca...ted-from-u-s-after-detecting--1891145630.html
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Yup the rat study isn't the only evidence (what LazyLion incorrectly calls extrapolation) of it causing cancer.
 
Swa said:
Yup the rat study isn't the only evidence (what LazyLion incorrectly calls extrapolation) of it causing cancer.
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Um, Dude... YOU started using the word "extrapolating" at Post #7, not me....

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LazyLion said:
Um, Dude... YOU started using the word "extrapolating" at Post #7, not me....

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Because you're the one that extrapolated from the rat studies to try and show it takes higher levels to cause cancer. Seems you don't know the meaning of extrapolate just as you don't understand that the rat studies are further evidence, though not the only evidence, but you can't directly extrapolate the results onto humans.
 
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