Everyone should use the toll road

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Albereth

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Every single Gauteng motorist should drive under a gantry at least once a month.

I suggest that we all do it, for all of our vehicles and all on the same day. One gantry. The sheer administrative cost will outweigh any revenue that Scumral will hope to get. It will result in them having to print 2 pages for the statement and 2 pages for the invoice and the cost of send 2 sets of correspondence. The volume of correspondence will overwhelm the printers and the postal delivery service.
 
Albereth said:
Every single Gauteng motorist should drive under a gantry at least once a month.

I suggest that we all do it, for all of our vehicles and all on the same day. One gantry. The sheer administrative cost will outweigh any revenue that Scumral will hope to get. It will result in them having to print 2 pages for the statement and 2 pages for the invoice and the cost of send 2 sets of correspondence. The volume of correspondence will overwhelm the printers and the postal delivery service.
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No amount of paperwork will bring them down. Its people not paying that will
 
I have avoided the tolls for the most part. But just to add some work for them to do, i deliberately went through a few gantrys on the previous weekend
 
Yip, I don't think we should be avoiding the tolls
 
rakabos3 said:
No amount of paperwork will bring them down. Its people not paying that will
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I must be their least profitable 'customer'. They wanted R6.76 from me. In order to get it they have spent in excess of that in printing, postage, and responding to a query on the lack of information provided.

The 'cost' of administration will impact. Drive through the cheapest toll just once and they lose money. Now you do that every month, just the once. And we all do it on the same day. They will need to upscale to deal with a peak. 4 000 000 different transactions means 16 000 000 pieces of paper, 8 000 000 envelopes, and 8 000 000 postage fees.

And then you don't pay.
 
Albereth said:
I must be their least profitable 'customer'. They wanted R6.76 from me. In order to get it they have spent in excess of that in printing, postage, and responding to a query on the lack of information provided.

The 'cost' of administration will impact. Drive through the cheapest toll just once and they lose money. Now you do that every month, just the once. And we all do it on the same day. They will need to upscale to deal with a peak. 4 000 000 different transactions means 16 000 000 pieces of paper, 8 000 000 envelopes, and 8 000 000 postage fees.

And then you don't pay.
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That's why they are so desperate to get people to register.

Someone didn't think very clearly methinks.

Every angle you look at this thing from it's broken
 
The website is broken half the time. Tickets take days, even weeks to be answered. Over 250 000 online tickets logged since launch just from registered users.

This thing cannot work.

The sad part is that it may take years before it ever collapses. Or it may never collapse and just quietly tick along with an ever growing mountain of unpaid bills and debt collections. Will the ANC ever admit defeat? I doubt it.
 
I agree with this if everyone drives through just one and not pay its creating chaos for them.
 
Ja, I think I will stop avoiding them as well... but to be honest, I don't use them a lot anyway.
 
Albereth said:
I must be their least profitable 'customer'. They wanted R6.76 from me. In order to get it they have spent in excess of that in printing, postage, and responding to a query on the lack of information provided.

The 'cost' of administration will impact. Drive through the cheapest toll just once and they lose money. Now you do that every month, just the once. And we all do it on the same day. They will need to upscale to deal with a peak. 4 000 000 different transactions means 16 000 000 pieces of paper, 8 000 000 envelopes, and 8 000 000 postage fees.

And then you don't pay.
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In the end, who do you think is going to make up for the money they lose?
 
All this had done on my side is make me avoid all toll roads.
So not only are they loosing on the gantries they are loosing cash they used to get from me (and I am sure many others).
 
Slootvreter said:
As much as I'd like to see them fold, it's unlikely to happen. They will get their money, some way or the other.
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Just to be quite clear, so that this doesn't become a silly argument, the roads need to be paid for and to that end I am quite happy that the government hands over dosh to the construction companies providing that the prices charged for the construction were market related and not inflated to provide bonuses and kickbacks. The user pays principle is ridiculous as critical infrastructure (supposedly) benefits all South Africans.

Scumral are never going to get money. It is not in the government's interest to make sure anyone gets money. Money provides a means for patronage and the government is quite happy to dole out drips and drabs in return for votes - and we're not talking national election votes, we're talking about the votes in the ANC structures.

The government has painted itself into a corner. The bailouts will come at the expense of rural schools and social programmes. Not at the expense of the ministers' vehicle allowances. And when there is enough outcry about the lack of delivery and yet another municipality in the sticks is burnt down, maybe, just maybe a change will come.

So, until we get a government that actual does what we need I'll be very happy in contributing to keeping money away from Zumatello and the rest of the scum. Even if some wine farmer in the Cape wonders why he has potholes in his road.
 
Albereth said:
Every single Gauteng motorist should drive under a gantry at least once a month.

I suggest that we all do it, for all of our vehicles and all on the same day. One gantry. The sheer administrative cost will outweigh any revenue that Scumral will hope to get. It will result in them having to print 2 pages for the statement and 2 pages for the invoice and the cost of send 2 sets of correspondence. The volume of correspondence will overwhelm the printers and the postal delivery service.
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:) I have been thinking this. I have to make my one trip this month. Think I'l be doing it today.
 
Albereth said:
Just to be quite clear, so that this doesn't become a silly argument, the roads need to be paid for and to that end I am quite happy that the government hands over dosh to the construction companies providing that the prices charged for the construction were market related and not inflated to provide bonuses and kickbacks. The user pays principle is ridiculous as critical infrastructure (supposedly) benefits all South Africans.

Scumral are never going to get money. It is not in the government's interest to make sure anyone gets money. Money provides a means for patronage and the government is quite happy to dole out drips and drabs in return for votes - and we're not talking national election votes, we're talking about the votes in the ANC structures.

The government has painted itself into a corner. The bailouts will come at the expense of rural schools and social programmes. Not at the expense of the ministers' vehicle allowances. And when there is enough outcry about the lack of delivery and yet another municipality in the sticks is burnt down, maybe, just maybe a change will come.

So, until we get a government that actual does what we need I'll be very happy in contributing to keeping money away from Zumatello and the rest of the scum. Even if some wine farmer in the Cape wonders why he has potholes in his road.
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Not only that, I can foresee petrol price increases as well, which affects everyone and it also affects almost all business sectors. Now as I said, they will get their money. I am not convinced the E-Toll system will fold and be disbanded and shut down.
 
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