Evolution in action

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But to answer your specific reference:

Mmmmmkay?

Oh, and as for the role of suboptimality, it highlights evolution as a process of trial-and-error, by implication elaborate and imperfect.
I know where you got it from. You know how these are arguments from ignorance. Yet you (and cyghost) persist in spreading the word on these ignorant arguments? Why?

Oh, and as for the role of suboptimality, it highlights evolution as a process of trial-and-error, by implication elaborate and imperfect.
Suboptimal with regards to what? Is there some standard evolutionary definition for optimal and suboptimal with regards to evolutionary dynamics and informatics? if there is, that would be pretty exciting because then we know what evolution should and should not do to reach optimality.
 
I know where you got it from. You know how these are arguments from ignorance. Yet you (and cyghost) persist in spreading the word on these ignorant arguments? Why?

Coming from someone who spews page after page after page, consisting of nothing more than arguments from incredulity? Someone who sees it fit to have his own little semi-clandestine circle-jerk discussing the statements of others?

Please...
 
Phronesis, you removed all scientific value from your debates when you have degenerated into a bitter little poster that resorts to baiting a fight when ever the opportunity arises.
 
Perhaps you just did not understand the page after page of science...
You are welcome to actually point out these arguments from incredulity you accuse others of. Goodness knows I am getting sick of your arguments from ignorance.

Oh, you are welcome to discuss anything there in a civil manner. Even jerks are welcome, just keep it civil. Heck, why don't you join?
 
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Let's continue to discuss the action and evolution in the "What's wrong with evolution?" thread.

More from agentrfr:
But I say mutations can only eliminate traits. They cannot produce new features.
Well, this is a bit difficult to hold. Let's see.

Nylon was first synthesized in 1935 by Wallace Carothers at DuPont, yet bacteria (Arthrobacter sp. KI7, formerly Flavobacterium sp.) can metabolize nylon (1). Therefore, one of two things are true:

1) The nylon breakdown capabilities of these bacteria were present before nylon was synthesized.
2) Or, new enzymes capable of nylon metabolism evolved (through whatever means).

So what is nylon?
Nylon-6 is produced from caprolactam by ring cleavage polymerization and consists of more than 100 units of 6-aminohexanoate (Ahx). During the polymerization reaction, some molecules fail to polymerize and remain as linear oligomers, while others undergo head-to-tail condensation to form cyclic oligomers (Figure 1). These cyclic and linear oligomers (called nylon oligomers) are the byproducts from nylon factories and become nylon bug food. Three enzymes, 6-aminohexanoate-cyclic dimer hydrolase (EI), 6-aminohexanoate-dimer hydrolase (EII) and endo-type 6-aminohexanoate oligomer hydrolase (EIII), are found to be responsible for the degradation of the nylon oligomers (Figure 2) (2). The genes responsible for coding these proteins are located on plasmid pOAD2 (45,519 bp) in strain KI72 (not only K172 though) (3).

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Figure 1: 6-aminohexanoate and associated dimers

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Figure 2: Breakdown of nylon oligomers by 6-Aminohexanoate dimer Hydrolases​

So what is the mechanism of nylon degradation? Amide hydrolysis...
Negoro et al. (2007) wrote an interesting article and proposed a possible mechanism of how the 6-aminohexanoate linear dimer (Ald) is broken down by the E2 enzyme (4). See figure 5.

First, a little background information:
1) Asp181 and Tyr170 form a hydrogen bond in the unbound state of E2 (Figure 3b). Asp181, and probably Ser112 and Ile345, are crucial in accepting the 6-aminohexaonate substrate, as upon binding, 6-aminohexaonate forms a stable electrostatic interaction with Asp181 and causes structural alterations that localizes Tyr170 to the catalytic center (Figure 3).
2) The important amino acid residues involved in catalyzing the hydrolysis (catalytic center) of Ald into two 6-aminohexanoate molecules are (Fig 4):
Tyr170
Asp181
Ile345
Ser112
Tyr215 and/or Lys115
Water molecules within the catalytic centre also play an important role.
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Figure 3: Unbound conformation of EII. (1wyc.pdb)

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Figure 4: Bound conformation of EII. (2dcf.pdb)​

The mechanism:
1) Upon binding, a conformational change occurs as a result of an electrostatic interaction between the Ald-amine and Asp181, causing in the Tyr170 to come into contact with the amide bond of Ald (1-2 in figure). Tyr170(phenolic hydroxyl) protonates the amide nitrogen (2 in figure)
2) A nucleophilic attack, facilitated by deprotonation of Ser112 by Ile345 and/or Lys115, to Ald by Ser112 results in the formation of a tetrahedral (3 in figure) intermediate and subsequent hydrolysis as a result a nucleophilic attack from water on the carbonyl carbon results in the hydrolysis of the amide bond and release of 1 Ald molecule (4 in figure).
3) Subsequent deacylation releases the second Ald molecule and influx of water molecules restores the activity of the unbound E2 (its more complicated than this, but it is covered in the paper) [[vi]] (5-8 in figure).

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Figure 5: Mechanism of nylon break down​

And now for the important part. Where did the information come from for this novel adaptation?
Amide hydrolysis for other amides present in nature is quite common. Beta-lactamases, the enzymes responsible for the breakdown of… you guessed it… beta-lactams are present in many types of bacteria. Beta-lactamase breaks the 4-membered heteroatomic ring structure (three carbon atoms and one nitrogen atom) open by hydrolyzing the amide bond of a beta-lactam (Figure 6).

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Figure 6: Amide bonds of Ald and betalactams​

EII’ (nylB’) is an enzyme also encoded on plasmid OAD2 of Arthrobacter sp. KI72. The enzyme has B-lactamase folds and is also able to catalyze the breakdown of Ald. EII’ is a classical carboxylesterase with high activity towards carboxylesters with short acyl chains (5). The accession code for the the nylB' (EII') amino acid sequence is P07062 and the FASTA sequence can be used to search for similar sequences in other bacterial, archael and eukaryotic genomes at this site (with the BlastP program). After doing so, it can be seen that proteins with beta-lactam folds with 6-aminohexanoate-dimer hydrolytic activity (non-specific Ald amide hydrolysis) is spread throughout the bacterial and archaeal kingdoms.

EII’ is, therefore a pre-existing 6-aminohexanoate-dimer hydrolase with low activity (0.5% that of EII (nylB)) towards Ald that gained an increase in activity towards the Ald through amino acid substitutions in the catalytic cleft containing the “Ser-X-X-Lys” motive (6). The information needed to metabolize 6-aminohexanoate for energy was already present (presumably the lysine degradation pathway) and the useful esterase with B-lactam folds with minimal Ald hydrolytic activity allowed the bacteria to survive under stressful conditions where the sole energy source was Ald.

To answer the question of whether the nylon breakdown capabilities of these bacteria were present before nylon was synthesized or, new enzymes capable of nylon metabolism evolved (through whatever means)... The answer is a bit of both...

The evidence points to (and seems like the simplest explanation - Occam's razor) a pre-existing classical carboxylesterase with B-lactamase folds (NylB'/EII') with low activity (0.5% that of EII (nylB) towards nylon oligomers, gained an increase in activity towards the the oligomers through amino acid substitutions in the catalytic cleft containing the “Ser-X-X-Lys” motive without affecting the activity towards its original substrates.

Pre-existing nylon digesting enzymes were just optimized with a few mutations. Therefore mutations can produce new traits.

References:
1. Prijambada ID, Negoro S, Yomo T, Urabe I. Emergence of nylon oligomer degradation enzymes in Pseudomonas aeruginosa PAO through experimental evolution. Appl Environ Microbiol. 1995 May;61(5):2020-2.

2. Negoro S. Biodegradation of nylon oligomers. Appl Microbiol Biotechnol. 2000 Oct;54(4):461-6.

3. Kato K, Ohtsuki K, Koda Y, Maekawa T, Yomo T. et al. A plasmid encoding enzymes for nylon oligomer degradation: nucleotide sequence and analysis of pOAD2. Microbiology. 1995 Oct;141 ( Pt 10):2585-90.

4. Negoro S, Ohki T, Shibata N, Sasa K, Hayashi H et al. Nylon-oligomer degrading enzyme/substrate complex: catalytic mechanism of 6-aminohexanoate-dimer hydrolase. J Mol Biol. 2007 Jun 29;370(1):142-56.

5. Ohki T, Wakitani Y, Takeo M, Yasuhira K, Shibata N, Higuchi Y, et al. Mutational analysis of 6-aminohexanoate-dimer hydrolase: relationship between nylon oligomer hydrolytic and esterolytic activities. FEBS Lett. 2006 Sep 18;580(21):5054-2058.

6. Negoro S, Ohki T, Shibata N, Mizuno N, Wakitani Y et al. X-ray crystallographic analysis of 6-aminohexanoate-dimer hydrolase: molecular basis for the birth of a nylon oligomer-degrading enzyme. J Biol Chem 2005 Nov 25;280(47):39644-52
 
More on agentfr's assertion that:

But I say mutations can only eliminate traits. They cannot produce new features.

Nice article:
Historical contingency and the evolution of a key innovation in an experimental population of Escherichia coli
Some say this is an evolutionary leap... What did these guys do and find?

Background info:
E. coli are facultative anaerobic organisms, meaning that in the presence of oxygen, pyruvate (from glycolysis) will enter the Krebs (citric acid) cycle to produce energy and in the absence of oxygen, pyruvate will ferment to form lactate and/or ethanol (depending on the organism). Thus, E. coli can metabolize intracellular citrate just fine. All the machinery necessary to metabolize citrate is present in E. coli and the biochemical processes/reactions are highly coordinated and complex. Therefore, the evolutionary "leap/jump" cited is not an example of a suddenly acquired ability to metabolize citrate as E. coli posses the necessary intracellular machinery to metabolize citrate. What did evolve then?

First look at the experimental conditions.
The E. coli (subtype B) bacteria where grown in DM25, a minimal salts medium that has 139microM glucose and 1,700microM citrate for about 20 years. Meaning a lot of extracellular citrate and little extracellular glucose. This specific strain does not have a citrate symporter to import the extracellular citrate. Other strains of E. coli posses such membrane proteins (e.g. citT), however some of them are situated on plasmids and the researchers made sure that horizontal transfer of plasmids was not possible in this experiment. Basically, the bacteria were swimming in an ocean of food but could only use a fraction of it because they could not get their "hands" on the goods. At around the 31000-31500th generation the first citrate "importers" arose. It will be fascinating to see the actual mutations that gave rise to this function and it is probably more than one (article speculates on possibly three genetic events over many generations). E. coli has many other symporter membrane proteins for dicarboxylic acids and other molecules with similar properties to citrate (e.g. Tartrate or alpha-ketoglutarate). Citrate is a tricarboxylic acid and it is possible that a few key mutations from an existing symporter protein allowed citrate to be imported by an existing protein. If so, it would be interesting how the mutations affected the properties of the original symporter system. The researchers however have not tracked down the exact mutations.

30 000 generations is the equivalent of +-600 000 years of evolution in a species with an average generation of 20 years (like primates). Is this an example of a "leap/jump"? If you are lactose intolerant, it might very well take 600 000 years before a mutation makes your descendants lactose tolerant (lactase gene beneficial mutation if all your descendants are also lactose intolerant). So in the end it is more like an evolutionary stutter (without us knowing the full extent of the other mutations during the 30 000 generations), much like nylonase "evolution" (se above), which was a a pre-existing esterase with B-lactam folds that had minimal nylon hydrolysis activity from the start.

But, mutations still do indeed produce new features contrary to agentfr's assertion.
 
Sometimes biology can be quite fun. I do like the conclusion of the paper you refer to:

In any case, our study shows that historical contingency can
have a profound and lasting impact under the simplest, and thus
most stringent, conditions in which initially identical populations
evolve in identical environments. Even from so simple a beginning,
small happenstances of history may lead populations along
different evolutionary paths. A potentiated cell took the one less
traveled by, and that has made all the difference.

Replay that tape of life and who knows what would evolve! I love "small happenstances of history" - sh|t happens!

:)
 
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