F...... Doctors

[SirFooK'nG]

My wife went a Phsyciatrist 4 times. The first visit cost R350.30 (1st time innitial fee) + R758.00 for 15min. The other 3 visits were all under 10min, all she did was ask how she was feeling with the medication and renewed the presctription. F*&^ thats R3382.30 for less than 1 hour actual work! Now my MSA is in its flippin glory. I hate f...... doctors, what a f...... rip off. Basta%ds.

Any chance of the community fund donating R758 to me

 

[Keeper]

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yeah, doc's suck - one of the reasons I don't get sick....hate 'em.

 

[Gothan]

Freakin hell, I should have finished my hons and phd in psych, just look at the amount of moola I could make!!

 

[LazyLion]

Psychiatrists are quacks. I coulda told you that. You could have saved the money and given her some Syndol every day. Go to the Church for counseling or even to some trustworthy friends for good advice. But don't waste your money on a Quack!

 

[Solidus]

Freakin hell, I should have finished my hons and phd in psych, just look at the amount of moola I could make!!

+1 but then again you work for free for most the time you studying so I guess they just trying to make up for it now

 

[PC Direct]

Ouch, that's very expensive

 

[Gothan]

Psychiatrists are quacks. I coulda told you that. You could have saved the money and given her some Syndol every day. Go to the Church for counseling or even to some trustworthy friends for good advice. But don't waste your money on a Quack!

I'm sorry, but here I do have to disagree, not with the point about psychiatrists being quacks (well some of them), but actually advising church counseling over a psychologist, then rather just go to a friend, atleast they wont fill your head with BS (well depends on how good a friend it is)

 

[LazyLion]

I'm sorry, but here I do have to disagree, not with the point about psychiatrists being quacks (well some of them), but actually advising church counseling over a psychologist, then rather just go to a friend, atleast they wont fill your head with BS (well depends on how good a friend it is)

Well sure, if you have a bias against Biblical advice or do not consider yourself a believer, then of course you are going to disagree.

But for the common man, Church advice is straightforward, to the point, experienced, designed with your spiritual benefit in mind and best of all it is free. People who are open to spiritual advice should at least consider it as a good option.

But as I said, there are other options ...all better than paying some Quack so much money. Especially when you can guess that 99% of the time the Quack is just going to prescribe some happy pills for you which will probably get you addicted. Heck, I would even prefer a Psychologist over a Psychiatrist!

 

[Ecco]

Damn thats expensive, hectic dude. Have you tried finding another cheaper Phsyciatrist?

 

[SirFooK'nG]

Thing is Phsychiatrist can prescribe medication (which is essential given my wife's diagnosis), The cow doesn't even do counselling! She refers you to a Phsycologist (who can't prescribe) for counselling - if necessary.

From now on, just going to go to our GP and ask him to do the script!!! Thats if he is allowed to?!?

 

[Gothan]

That does not make sense, think its a good idea that you skip this psychologist. They are suppose to be able to give counselling the same as a psychologist, with the added benefit of prescribing medication (they go through the same training/studies except that psychologists go Bsc with pharmacuetical (spelling??) majors, while with psychology, you usually either go BA or BCom, BA more for the social sciences like sociology and so on, and BCom mostly for labour relations and so on)

 

[LazyLion]

Thing is Phsychiatrist can prescribe medication (which is essential given my wife's diagnosis), The cow doesn't even do counselling! She refers you to a Phsycologist (who can't prescribe) for counselling - if necessary.

From now on, just going to go to our GP and ask him to do the script!!! Thats if he is allowed to?!?

Yes, your GP should be able to prescribe from now on. That's what I did with my neurologist and my migraine medication. Much cheaper.

 

[CathJ]

Psychiatrists are quacks. I coulda told you that. You could have saved the money and given her some Syndol every day. Go to the Church for counseling or even to some trustworthy friends for good advice. But don't waste your money on a Quack!

I'm sorry, but here I do have to disagree, not with the point about psychiatrists being quacks (well some of them), but actually advising church counseling over a psychologist, then rather just go to a friend, atleast they wont fill your head with BS (well depends on how good a friend it is)

Dangerous advice. Some people do need help, professional help, not advice from friends. And some do need medication.

You're welcome to your own opinions, of course, but try not to phrase it as advice.

 

[CathJ]

Thing is Phsychiatrist can prescribe medication (which is essential given my wife's diagnosis), The cow doesn't even do counselling! She refers you to a Phsycologist (who can't prescribe) for counselling - if necessary.

From now on, just going to go to our GP and ask him to do the script!!! Thats if he is allowed to?!?

Your GP may be able to prescribe the meds... I guess it depends whether or not he feels that he's experienced enough in that area. He would then also refer you to a psychologist for counselling if necessary.

 

[SirFooK'nG]

I reckon 70% of all doctors just guess these days. They are like sausage factories, squash you in and s..t you out. All about money. No flippin hippocratic oath rubbish, they don't care about you, only your wallet!

 

[LazyLion]

Dangerous advice. Some people do need help, professional help, not advice from friends. And some do need medication.

You're welcome to your own opinions, of course, but try not to phrase it as advice.

But who is going to make that call? You? Your husband? Your GP?

The advice has to start somewhere. Might as well be from wise people you trust. Then, if in their opinion there is serious mental disturbance or chemical imbalance, then of course they will refer to a [good reputable] psychiatrist (and a neurologist just to be sure).

But the process has to start somewhere. And if the psychiatrist has already diagnosed some form of depression (as seems to be the case here), then why not call in the other parties for their opinion?

.. and by the way... my "opinion" is based on four years of Psychology.

 

[bodhi]

I reckon 70% of all doctors just guess these days. They are like sausage factories, squash you in and s..t you out. All about money. No flippin hippocratic oath rubbish, they don't care about you, only your wallet!

your statement shocked me - you don't really know what you're talking about...

 

[SirFooK'nG]

your statement shocked me - you don't really know what you're talking about...

How about this, I go to very reputable dermatologist in Westville hospital (which is one of the better ones in KZN) about a year ago. I have a freckle above my left eyebrow, quite large and irregular in shape and color, that I didnt have 6 months prior to that. He takes his fancy digital camera with a special macro zoom lense and takes a pic of it. He calmly says nothing to worry about, just a freckle.

No need for a follow up appointment. So on monday I go to a different Dermatologist, cause the f...... thing has grown and looks like a deformed mole, that itches and flakes now. Guess what ... this one says its a Basil Cell carcinoma ... f....... lovely - skin cancer!

I hate god damn useless doctors.

 

[LazyLion]

Dangerous advice. Some people do need help, professional help, not advice from friends. And some do need medication.

You're welcome to your own opinions, of course, but try not to phrase it as advice.

But who is going to make that call? You? Your husband? Your GP?

You are talking about before diagnosis. I was talking about after.

The advice has to start somewhere. Might as well be from wise people you trust. Then, if in their opinion there is serious mental disturbance or chemical imbalance, then of course they will refer to a [good reputable] psychiatrist (and a neurologist just to be sure).

But the process has to start somewhere, the patient doesn't just wake up in the Psychiatrist's office. And if the psychiatrist has already diagnosed some form of depression (as seems to be the case here), then why not call in the other parties for their opinion?

.. and by the way... my "opinion" is based on four years of Psychology at WITS.

 

[CathJ]

But who is going to make that call? You? Your husband? Your GP?

The advice has to start somewhere. Might as well be from wise people you trust. Then, if in their opinion there is serious mental disturbance or chemical imbalance, then of course they will refer to a [good reputable] psychiatrist (and a neurologist just to be sure).

But the process has to start somewhere. And if the psychiatrist has already diagnosed some form of depression (as seems to be the case here), then why not call in the other parties for their opinion?

.. and by the way... my "opinion" is based on four years of Psychology.

Who makes the call? Certainly not some bob from my church or a friend! I'd start with my GP, who would refer as needed.

4 years would take you to what, a BA? Yeah, I know how much you learn in that time. You're not qualified to recommend that people don't go to psychologists or psychiatrists.

Edit: Ah, okay - I see you added a line "You are talking about before diagnosis. I was talking about after." Yup, I was talking about before diagnosis, but my point applies even more so after diagnosis. If you're diagnosed with depression, or schizophrenia, you need medication and therapy, not discussions with a friend or church member. Even if (and I highly disagree) you think that friends could take the place of a therapist, you still need the meds and that for that you need a psychologist or a GP who knows that field.