F1 2012 thread

Oh no. Another Red Bull 1-2 procession to end the season. That car is light years ahead of everything else.
 
killadoob said:
Only on certain tracks, still 4 more races.

Vettel has found his groove, does mark have 3 wins in a row?
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True that, I see an argument earlier about Schumacher and his car. I believe it comes down to a good driver and the driver having a proper car to do the job.

That's where it comes down to Vettel being a good driver. I think Hamilton and Alonso are good drivers too, but at the moment Red Bull just has a better car. Think those drivers are the drivers of this generation. The generation after Michael
 
Well it's driver, car, tires and so on. Redbull struggled on many tracks this season due to their car. The slower tighter tracks it loves, the high speed tracks not so good.

If vettel wins the championship for a third year it will be the car that got him there, not his skill. Always the case unless your name is hamilton, then it's all skill.
 
killadoob said:
Well it's driver, car, tires and so on. Redbull struggled on many tracks this season due to their car. The slower tighter tracks it loves, the high speed tracks not so good.

If vettel wins the championship for a third year it will be the car that got him there, not his skill. Always the case unless your name is hamilton, then it's all skill.
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Only if you beat a 2x WC in the same hardware ;)
 
killadoob said:
...If vettel wins the championship for a third year it will be the car that got him there, not his skill. Always the case unless your name is hamilton, then it's all skill.
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Yip, these redbulls are so advanced and ahead now a days, that they run on auto pilot as well....with the upgraded software V4.22 on vettels car. :wtf: :p
 
killadoob said:
Come on alonso get your shyte together and win this GP!!!!
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LAWL. No offence and all, but I'm more interested in whether VJ is going to show his face or not. I'm guessing he's taking leave this weekend. :p
 
Robertvv said:
who is VJ?
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http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_indian-grand-prix-waits-for-vijay-mallya-s-arrival_1756179
Vijay Mallya's nameplate gleamed on the door of his office in the Force India hospitality at the Indian Grand Prix on Thursday while a team sponsor board outside carried the words 'Fly Kingfisher'.

The flamboyant Indian Formula One team owner and self-proclaimed 'King of Good Times' was nowhere to be seen however while his debt-ridden Kingfisher Airline is not flying anywhere just at the moment.

The tycoon's whereabouts have been the subject of considerable interest while his airline staff have protested at not being paid since March and the country's aviation regulator has suspended Kingfisher's licence.

Although Kingfisher employees agreed on Thursday to resume work after a meeting with the company chief executive, the liquor and aviation baron has not been seen in India or a Formula One paddock for weeks.

A report in the Times of India newspaper on Thursday suggested Mallya's private Airbus could be impounded if he landed in India because of dues allegedly owed to airport authorities.

Another non-bailable court warrant issued against him over bounced cheques to an Indian airport operator was revoked this month after the dues were settled. Force India deputy principal Bob Fernley, speaking to Reuters in Mallya's office, played down such speculation however.

"He'll be coming into India tomorrow (Friday) evening or early morning Saturday," he said. "As far as I am aware, it's just the normal business. Arrive Saturday, do qualifying and come in for the race on Sunday."

Fernley said Mallya was in Europe and had attended a meeting with Formula One teams, governing body and commercial rights holder Bernie Ecclestone in Paris on Monday.

"Obviously you have to have sympathy for the employees of Kingfisher airlines. Huge sympathy," he said when asked about reports of possible protests at the circuit. "But at the end of the day, it's a public company.

"My feeling is that no Kingfisher Airline personnel have any negative thoughts to Sahara Force India personnel or the success of Sahara Force India. They are two completely separate entities."

Force India, the first Formula One team to race under an Indian licence even if they have never had an Indian driver and are not likely to any time soon, are Mallya's private plaything although Indian business conglomerate Sahara took a 42.5% stake last year.

Sahara, whose brand is prominent on the cars as title sponsor, have also been attracting negative business headlines after being ordered by the Indian Supreme Court last October to refund about $4.6 billion to investors.

Indian newspapers have run large Force India advertisements ahead of Sunday's race, with similar hoardings on circuit approach roads, urging "C'mon India, raise the flag!" and declaring the team to be the only one "powered by the hopes of a billion people".

The team's drivers, Germany's Nico Hulkenberg and Britain's Paul Di Resta, have both been busy carrying out promotional duties around the New Delhi area in recent days. Di Resta told reporters, at a crowded briefing, that he had detected no hostility towards the team as a result of Kingfisher's woes.

"I've not seen anything and I'm not aware of anything," he said. "If there's anybody they want to target then it's Vijay they should target because he's the one involved in the issues." Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone, who celebrates his 82nd birthday on Sunday, defended his friend.

"I've known Vijay for 30 odd years. Vijay during his life has had ups and downs," the Briton told Reuters. "And I hope if he's on a down, which I don't know whether he is, he'll be up again. "I don't think Vijay's problem will affect the team. I hope it doesn't affect him, because he's a good guy."
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http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2012/5/13387.html
The Cannes film festival may still be in full flow, but even Hollywood couldn’t resist celebrating the opening night of the Monaco Grand Prix weekend on Thursday. Force India boss Vijay Mallya welcomed a who’s-who of the silver screen and Formula One racing to the gangplank of his mega yacht, the Indian Empress, for his now traditional Monte Carlo party.
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Alonso reckons he's fighting Newey in the Championship. I tend to agree.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103800
When asked by AUTOSPORT if he felt his title hopes were slipping from his grasp, Alonso said: "Not at all. I think it is more challenging for us now, but I remain 100 per cent confident that we will fight for this championship, and we will win it."

Alonso said his confidence was based on the fact that Red Bull's advantage only seems to be clear in qualifying, with its race pace not that far ahead of Ferrari.

"I think they are dominant on Saturday and they have the fastest car at the moment, so they are first and second," explained Alonso. "It was first position for Webber in Korea and pole position here for Vettel, so they are dominant as a team performance
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103780
Fernando Alonso believes he is having to contend with the genius of Red Bull's chief technical officer Adrian Newey just as much as he is the brilliance of Sebastian Vettel.
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If Alonso pulls it off at this stage, as long as Ferrari lags Red Bull as they currently are, Vettel fans would have to concede that in his current form, Alonso > Vettel
 
IPX-SPX said:
If Alonso pulls it off at this stage, as long as Ferrari lags Red Bull as they currently are, Vettel fans would have to concede that in his current form, Alonso > Vettel
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Erm, what are you actually trying to say? Vettel is a Marussia level driver?
 
BigAl-sa said:
Why must I elaborate? According to you, Vettel is not very good.
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Nope, never said that. I can't see how you came to that conclusion.
You don't have to elaborate if you don't want to make much sense. Your call.
 
Haldex said:
Vettel FTW!! :D
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It's just short of a given today IMO. It would take something special to stop that. I think, if anything, the action should be between Hamilton and Alonso. Unless RB are rubbish with a full tank and no DRS for the full length of the track.
 
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