F1 2014 thread

thestaggy said:
I never said there was anything wrong with Button. Simply feel that he's Rubens Barrichello with a drivers title. I think he puts a car where it belongs but lacks the Vettel/Hamilton/Schumi factor whereby he will move on to the next level. With the possible exception of the first 7 races in 2009, of course.
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No, Rubens was beaten by him in the same hardware lol.

Polish said:
He has passed his sell by.

Should either retire, or see out 1 year with a backmarker team to develop car and pass on knowledge and then retire, do some DTM, and then live happily ever after.
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I honestly don't know how anyone can suggest that as long as he's driving a piece of poop.
 
iaywtimnbe said:
No, Rubens was beaten by him in the same hardware lol.
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He won that title in the first 7 races. From rounds 8 - 17 Barrichello out scored him 42 - 34 and won two races to Buttons' zero.

Start of the season the car was a beast and he put it where it belong; 6 wins and a third. By mid season the advantage was gone and he only made the podium twice in 10 races and was outraced by Barrichello.

Good driver, but he's not a legend. Button is simply Barrichello, Coulthard and Webber with a championship. The other three were good drivers. Solid drivers that you could depend on to bring the car home and bag points. All capable of putting in a bit of magic here and there but aside from Button's 7 races in 2009, all four were incapable of moving it on to that next level a la Schumi, Vetel, Alonso & Hamilton.
 
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Polish said:
He has passed his sell by.

Should either retire, or see out 1 year with a backmarker team to develop car and pass on knowledge and then retire, do some DTM, and then live happily ever after.
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Strangely enough, F1 drivers have struggled with DTM. Hakkinen was the most successful, winning a few races. Alesi got a win or two as well, but the rest (Frentzen, Ralf Schumacher, Coulthard) were all pretty average.
 
thestaggy said:
He won that title in the first 7 races. From rounds 8 - 17 Barrichello out scored him 42 - 34 and won two races to Buttons' zero.

Start of the season the car was a beast and he put it where it belong; 6 wins and a third. By mid season the advantage was gone and he only made the podium twice in 10 races and was outraced by Barrichello.

Good driver, but he's not a legend. Button is simply Barrichello, Coulthard and Webber with a championship. The other three were good drivers. Solid drivers that you could depend on to bring the car home and bag points. All capable of putting in a bit of magic here and there but aside from Button's 7 races in 2009, all four were incapable of moving it on to that next level a la Schumi, Vetel, Alonso & Hamilton.
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He still beat his teammates most years in the same hardware, and the fact that he won the championship without winning a race says something. Whether the car was a beast or not at the start is neither here nor there since they both drove the same model. I still reckon he was done in with the early part of his career and that was a big part of the perception around his capability.
 
thestaggy said:
Strangely enough, F1 drivers have struggled with DTM. Hakkinen was the most successful, winning a few races. Alesi got a win or two as well, but the rest (Frentzen, Ralf Schumacher, Coulthard) were all pretty average.
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Yeah, very different kettle of fish, DTM.
 
In any event, new blood needs to come in, someone has to give, normally its the older folk they look at.

Apart from the pay driver bunch which I am sure nobody, not even JB would like to be compared to.
 
Polish said:
In any event, new blood needs to come in, someone has to give, normally its the older folk they look at.

Apart from the pay driver bunch which I am sure nobody, not even JB would like to be compared to.
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Agree - I also reckon there should be a more structured salary scale for drivers. Seeing teams spend obscene amounts on a driver just to lure them is a disappointment. JV is a prime example of a driver who was lured with $$$ to drive for a team that never amounted to much. I would have loved to see JV in a decent car.
 
I think that's their stupidity.

But fairness has never been part of F1, with some drivers earning more per year than the annual budget of a team. And they supposed to compete for same trophy.

Survival of the fittest.
 
Formula E gets £40m funding boost

Formula E, the FIA's new environmentally-friendly alternative to F1, has been handed a further funding boost of €40 million ahead of its inaugural season, according to the Telegraph.

The all-electric series, which has teams backed by the likes of Alain Prost, Richard Branson and even actor Leonardo DiCaprio, kicks off at the 'Bird's Nest' Olympic Stadium in Beijing on September 13, part of a 10-race calendar also including races in Los Angeles, Monaco and London. The latest backers to lend support to the revolutionary series are Californian technology company Qualcomm and Amura Capital, an Andorran private equity firm.

On Thursday the 40 cars for the 2014/15 season were unveiled at Donnington Park. Former F1 drivers Nick Heidfeld, Jarno Trulli and Jaime Alguersuari are amongst the line-up for the forthcoming season.

Alejandro Agag, Formula E's CEO, said: "What started out as an idea is now becoming a reality. With the first cars delivered to the teams in just over a week, and works beginning around the Olympic Park in Beijing, Formula E is moving closer to its goal to show fans around the world the true potential of electric cars."

Testing for the new Formula E season will begin in July at Donnington Park.
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http://en.espnf1.com

Excellent news, this project is moving forward nicely, cannot wait.
 
iaywtimnbe said:
He still beat his teammates most years in the same hardware, and the fact that he won the championship without winning a race says something. Whether the car was a beast or not at the start is neither here nor there since they both drove the same model. I still reckon he was done in with the early part of his career and that was a big part of the perception around his capability.
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I don't understand the bold part. He won at Hungary in 2006 and won 6 races in his championship year.

He helped cultivate his own poor image at the start of his career. In his own words he failed to help Benetton in 2001 because he was more focused on basking in his new found fame instead of knuckling down. Briatore instead chose to focus on a young Spaniard that had regularly raced both Benettons in a Minardi and showcased a lot more professionalism at an equally young age.

He did go on to shut Villeneuve and others up in 2003 and has gone on to have a solid career, but I personally don't think he ever lived up to the hype as the next Great British hope. Hamilton won a title before he did and has stolen his thunder.
 
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Do you think Vettel/ Rebull is making a comeback? To get the fastest lap is quite something when the top team is almost a second a lap faster than you.

Go Rosberg, not a huge Hami fan.
 
kaaskop said:
Do you think Vettel/ Rebull is making a comeback? To get the fastest lap is quite something when the top team is almost a second a lap faster than you.

Go Rosberg, not a huge Hami fan.
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Redbull is curtainly gaining ground but not yet close enough to claim a win IMO.
The reason Vettel was able to get a fastest lap was because of his fresher tires and low fuel, remember vettel did a 3 stop and thus had the best tires in the latter stages. Yet I believe the fighting WC is back with his new chassis.
Apparently the previous chassis had a hairline crack somewhere. The slightest movement caused the horrendous "feel" Vettel could not put his finger on.
 
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Polish said:
Formula E gets £40m funding boost



http://en.espnf1.com

Excellent news, this project is moving forward nicely, cannot wait.
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That is excellent. Not a huge chunk when you consider what Bernie's firm earns per F1 race, but welcome nonetheless. I love the fact that celebs are getting in on the action.
 
Mmmmm, agreed, its good though.

Public figures, famous people and high stake drivers is what attracts crowds. This has potential to be a success.
 
Sir Jack Brabham dies aged 88

Three-time world champion Sir Jack Brabham "passed away peacefully" at his Gold Coast home in Australia on Monday aged 88, his family has confirmed.

In a career spanning 15 years, Brabham won 14 races and drivers' titles in 1959, 1960 and 1966, with the latter achieved at the age of 40 and in a car of his own manufacture, the Brabham BT19, a remarkable feat not matched before or since in F1. Through the team he created, the Brabham name remained in F1 for 30 years, competing in 402 races and winning further titles through Denny Hulme (1967) and Nelson Piquet (1981, 1983). His youngest son David also competed in the sport in 1990 and 1994.

Brabham, nicknamed "Black Jack", became the first person to be knighted for services to motorsport after rising from racing midgets on dirt ovals in Australia to one of F1's all-time greats. He moved to the UK after serving as a mechanic in the Royal Australian Air Force to pursue a career in F1, making his debut at the 1955 British Grant Prix at Aintree.

His two titles for Cooper marked the end for front-engined cars in F1 and confirmed his status as one of the most gifted drivers of his generation. He secured the 1959 title in memorable style, pushing his car over the line after running out on fuel just two corners from the finish of the season finale at Sebring to become Australia's first F1 champion.

Brabham's mechanical nous led him to set up his own team in 1962, and his title four years later meant at the time he was only the second man to win three world titles after Juan Manuel Fangio. His Brabham team-mate Hulme pipped him to the drivers' title in 1967, a season which saw the team win its second and final constructors' crown. Brabham himself raced for three more years before hanging up his helmet for good at the conclusion of the 1970 season having won the opening round in South Africa, which would prove to be his final race win.

Brabham is survived by his second wife Lady Margaret, and his sons to his first wife Betty - Geoff, Gary and David, who have all enjoyed varying degrees of success in motorsport.
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Source http://en.espnf1.com

RIP Sir Jack Brabham
 
Dudes.

Is there anywhere, besides supersport, that I can watch the F1 in HD? In other words, paid (or free) streaming that works well from SA.
 
ph4t3 said:
Dudes.

Is there anywhere, besides supersport, that I can watch the F1 in HD? In other words, paid (or free) streaming that works well from SA.
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+1

If I can get this, I'll disconnect my DSTV tomorrow.
 
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