F1 2014 thread

We have not even discussed the Rosberg issue. I prefer rosberg to lewis but I honestly think he did it. Sector 2 was lewis's strongest sector so Rosberg picked the exactly the right spot to go off.
 
HapticSimian said:
Don't know that I'd agree. Your supposed 'legend' for years drove with an expectation that everyone else should just scoot out of his way, and Vettel looks like his puppy died every time he doesn't win.

Lewis' hair style is atrocious though. :D
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Granted, but he was calm and composed in the public eye. Having said, I'm assuming to be a WC you need some of that, cannot remember a fluffy all rounder nice guy WC, except Button, but ja, that we have discussed.
 
S1lv3r H4wK said:
We have not even discussed the Rosberg issue. I prefer rosberg to lewis but I honestly think he did it. Sector 2 was lewis's strongest sector so Rosberg picked the exactly the right spot to go off.
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That's the whole thing, Rosberg did it and all by himself. I think Lewis was caught off guard and didn't think he had it in him.

His 'I have more hunger for success' chants last week backfired on him. I think in Canada Rosberg will be his No 1 concern, unless someone else surprises us.
 
Polish said:
There is a visible difference in a legend like Schumi coming second, and even Vettel (and there are others), to that of Lewis.

The former two handle it with grace, even though they may be boiling inside. Lewis behaves like a spoilt brat.
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Yeah, Schumi pulls a move like he did in '94 Melbourne or the '97 European GP, '98 Argentina, or Belgium 2000, or Europe 2001, or Australia 2002, or Silverstone 2003, or Monaco 2006.... Seriously, people have a short memory.
Spoiled brat indeed.
 
HapticSimian said:
I'd prefer Hamilton to have won; I want him to crush [-]Britney[/-] Rosberg this season. Another run of 4 or so victories should do it.
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It's fitting that Rosberg won at the slowest circuit of the year after snatching pole :D

But seriously, what's evident is how much harder it is for the car following - was the same for Rosberg at previous races... you can get there, but getting past is another story altogether.
Rosberg seems to use more fuel than Hamilton - I thought that was just because he was behind in the past couple, but it seems he does it even when in front.

The catch 22 about saving fuel is that you have to carry an extra kilo or two in the closing laps...
 
iaywtimnbe said:
Yeah, Schumi pulls a move like he did in '94 Melbourne or the '97 European GP, '98 Argentina, or Belgium 2000, or Europe 2001, or Australia 2002, or Silverstone 2003, or Monaco 2006.... Seriously, people have a short memory.
Spoiled brat indeed.
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Michael was ruthless, yes, but he was professional. Where did you see Schumi crying his eyes out and being childish? Vettel and Hamilton have wet nappies when things don't go their way. When did Michael ever publicly trash someone or let team issues be known? Even when he cocked up, he closed ranks and took it behind closed doors.
 
thestaggy said:
Michael was ruthless, yes, but he was professional. Where did you see Schumi crying his eyes out and being childish? Vettel and Hamilton have wet nappies when things don't go their way. When did Michael ever publicly trash someone or let team issues be known? Even when he cocked up, he closed ranks and took it behind closed doors.
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Professional? Cheating is as far from professional as it gets. When did Michael ever have to bring up team issues? He was almost always the beneficiary of team decisions. Ask Barichello :D


[video=youtube;hsfQScvC5oI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsfQScvC5oI[/video]

He hits Coulthard from behind, breaks his car, then has a go at him in the garage.
Very professional lol!
 
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Polish said:
There is a visible difference in a legend like Schumi coming second, and even Vettel (and there are others), to that of Lewis.
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I would have to disagree, I think if either Michael or Vettel ever lost to their team mate with a perception that the team mate had cheated to gain advantage over them they would make Hamilton look like a saint with their response.
 
iaywtimnbe said:
Professional? Cheating is as far from professional as it gets. When did Michael ever have to bring up team issues? He was almost always the beneficiary of team decisions. Ask Barichello :D


[video=youtube;hsfQScvC5oI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsfQScvC5oI[/video]

He hits Coulthard from behind, breaks his car, then has a go at him in the garage.
Very professional lol!
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Like I said, he was ruthless, but there were never public tantrums on his part, aside from the Spa 1998 outburst, which was understandable in the heat of the moment. Again, aside from Spa, he would not go into a press conference and pull a Hamilton nor would he publicly blast his team a la Vettel. Michael was many things, including the consummate professional.

As for Spa 1998;

MICHAEL SCHUMACHER made a humble and very public retraction yesterday, exonerating David Coulthard over their controversial collision at the Belgian Grand Prix. A contrite Schumacher admitted: "It's clear he did nothing wrong at Spa."

The two drivers had a one and a half hour private meeting in a neutral motor home here, emerged shaking hands, and vowed to join forces for clearer guidelines on lapping and overtaking, especially in the rain.

Coulthard and his team, McLaren Mercedes, will now feel a little easier going in to Sunday's Italian Grand Prix in Ferrari's homeland. McLaren's other driver, Mika Hakkinen, leads Schumacher by seven points.

Schumacher, who in the heat of the moment at Spa accused Coulthard of trying to kill him, called for a meeting last week, which was brokered by the Austrian, Alexander Wurz, a spokesman for the Grand Prix Drivers' Association.

Schumacher left the meeting smiling and then, in more serious mood, reflected on the fateful incident when he ran into the back of Coulthard. "Initially it was not so clear," he said. "After looking at it, it was an unfortunate situation but I wouldn't say again he did it purposely to get me out of the race."
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing-coulthard-cleared-by-schumacher-1197422.html

In an interview years later he has also admitted that if he had the opportunity to do things differently he'd redo Jerez 1997 because he feels that wasn't one of the best decisions he made.

So yep, very professional. Thus far Hamilton has a lot of maturing to do.
 
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thestaggy said:
Like I said, he was ruthless, but there were never public tantrums on his part, aside from the Spa 1998 outburst, which was understandable in the heat of the moment. Again, aside from Spa, he would not go into a press conference and pull a Hamilton nor would he publicly blast his team a la Vettel. Michael was many things, including the consummate professional.
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Wait let me get this. So Michael runs down the pit lane to assault some one and according to you it is understandable. And Lewis needs to grow up because he registered displeasure, protest or whatever you want to call it because he felt that, whether rightly of wrongly, his teammate had cheated. Doesn't that also fall in the "heat of the moment" for which you so easily forgive Michael for.

Michael parks his his car on track to prevent Alonso beating him. But yeah he is a hero and grown up. Lol.

BTW I think LH should have handle the situation better, but to suggest Micheal or any other racing driver is better is just crazy.
 
Yeah ngwe23, apparently taking the opposition out on the track isn't considered a public trantrum - it's professional cheating. He's professional it seems :D
 
thestaggy said:
Like I said, he was ruthless, but there were never public tantrums on his part, aside from the Spa 1998 outburst, which was understandable in the heat of the moment. Again, aside from Spa, he would not go into a press conference and pull a Hamilton nor would he publicly blast his team a la Vettel. Michael was many things, including the consummate professional.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing-coulthard-cleared-by-schumacher-1197422.html

In an interview years later he has also admitted that if he had the opportunity to do things differently he'd redo Jerez 1997 because he feels that wasn't one of the best decisions he made.

So yep, very professional. Thus far Hamilton has a lot of maturing to do.
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Very professional? How? Throw your toys and say sorry later?
 
iaywtimnbe said:
Yeah ngwe23, apparently taking the opposition out on the track isn't considered a public trantrum - it's professional cheating. He's professional it seems :D
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Could also have been just an on track incident, with the weather being so bad.

Not making excuses but its a possibility.
 
Polish said:
Could also have been just an on track incident, with the weather being so bad.

Not making excuses but its a possibility.
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I was referring to Hill / Schumacher for the WC.
The rain incident with Coulthard was definitely a track incident... hence throwing his toys was stupid.
 
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