shadow_man
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Stop feeding this troll. He can't follow basic instructions in the Linux thread. There's not a snowballs chance in hell he's going to work out a hackintosh without someone doing EVERYTHING FOR HIM for MAHALA.
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InvisibleJim
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So you are actually sharing more information now that helps inform your decision:
You know how many customers you have been able to attract in the last year.
You know how much you were able to charge those customers
You know you can get a second hand Mac Mini for 2.5k
The market is competitive so there is a risk you may not get as many customers as last year. However if you have the Mac, you can maybe spend your time promoting that service rather than fiddling with a VM.
So you can make a conservative estimate of whether you could expect to gain more or less than 12 customers in the next year if you had the Mac and calculate how much profit (hopefully) you could expect to make and see whether this is worth your while.
Or you can flip it on its head and look at how many customers you need to get to pay off the Mac and get a worthwhile return. Is it realistic that you can achieve that number of customers?
The other thing to take into account is that provided you look after it, if things don't work out and you have to sell the Mac after 6 or 12 months, you will probably get something at least close to what you paid for it so the risk of outright losing your 2.5k investment is lower.
kronoSX
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I am jack of all trades master of non ..............do not want to waste money.its not a necessity to own a mac..
AfricanTech
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except that you need it to make money with your iphone repair venture....
Jissie man, use the correct tools for the job or don't bother.
Just so you don't think I'm just knocking you, I fkked around with hackintosh's many years ago and concluded that it's not worth the hassle and pain, it just isn't. You're much better off flogging the laptops you don't use and buying a mac mini - you can still use the mini for other compute tasks if the iPhone venture doesn't work out - it's not going to be a waste.
kronoSX
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i know what you saying is true and to the point but at least you got it working right.I did not and its eating me up from the inside.i do have another problem if someone helps me, when the laptop goes to sleep it sleeps forever...lol,And the backlight also gonna be a problem but i am sure someone out there has a fix.Not t osay the same thing will happen to me but ja only when i do get it running..lol.
I will look at my funds this month and see if i cant sell a laptop,If it dont look good then i just have to trial and error again,thats if i dont get any iso from someone here for lenovo g50 70,
InvisibleJim
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Don't knock being a jack of all trades. It is a step towards becoming a good generalist who can do many things quite well and research and solve unfamiliar problems. That can be quite valuable in a lot of roles.
Specialisation in IT does also have its benefits but on the other hand, there are a lot of individuals who have very focussed expertise in a product or technology but who don't understand how what they know fits into the real world or the business requirement. It cuts both ways.
kronoSX
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i got a macbook pro 2012 here,my brother got it from a client,it had a hard fall and the hinges are broken and there is no display but it goes on as i can hear the chime.Gonna try to fix it , put another screen in tomorrow,harddrive and get a external monitor adapter to HDMI,if all works then i dont need to buy that mac mini/
If all else fails then back to hackintosh madness
If all else fails then back to hackintosh madness
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backstreetboy
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From a hackingtosh to a hackjob lol.
shadow_man
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Yes, because we all love spending hours of our time providing free services to people who don't / won't listen.
I'm sure people are queuing up to offer their services.You've been given sound advice, but at every turn (same as the Linux camera thread) you choose to ignore it.
It's become pointless trying to assist.
Gravedigger
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@kronoSX Well, I have successfully hackintoshed two laptops so far, the one was a Lenovo Y510p, and while it worked good, the major problem is the onboard Wi-Fi. Major PITA. Never go the onboard Wi-Fi to work. Ran with both OpenCore and Clover.
The config.plist, I actually went through all the stuff, and built the config.plist, by getting all the details from running Windows, and then later in a MacOS VM, to create the installer (High Sierra), which things improved drastically since then with a Windows script that creates a installer USB.
I ran Mojave on the one, and High Sierra on the other laptop. The config.plist on my last attempt on hackintoshing, I cheated a little and used a Github repo, that was compatible with my laptop hardware. I had to fettle with EVERY kext to get something working. Shortcut keys? Major PITA. Brightness control? Eish. Eventually got it under control.
What wasn't working? Wireless. You have a Intel Wi-Fi chip? Chances are, it's not supported, yet. Best to run with a compatible wireless chip, here is the list of confirmed working Wi-Fi hardware: https://dortania.github.io/Wireless-Buyers-Guide/unsupported.html#supported-chipsets.
I've been lucky to get USB 3.0 working, but also a headache.
Touchpad? Same problem. Had to use a external mouse to get by sometimes. There's really not right-click on the touchpad, so, you have been warned.
If you want to Hackintosh your G50-70, I'd recommend that you buy a SSD or get a extra unused SSD, because Apple's HFS disk format runs better on a SSD, and WILL WIPE everything on that disk. I tried with a HDD, but it messed it up badly.
If you REALLY want to run with MacOS, there's a few guides out there, to get MacOS running on a VM, I'd choose that over spending countless hours of doing absolutely nothing to get the real install working, with half of the stuff broken, unsupported.
Trust me, it's not worth it to start with MacOS, unless you want to start with Apple related things, such as developing iOS apps, etc.
Or the advertisement for that it "just works"? true, in a sense, but trying to get things done fast, and with Finder littering your desktop? Not for me.
Also, installing simple apps, for example, VLC.
Linux: open a terminal, type one line, and possibly typing in a password. Boom, installed. Heck, you can even install like 15 programs in one terminal command.
MacOS: Download the VLC image file from their site, double click to mount it, type in password, opening the mounted image file, drag and dropping the humongous icon into your applications folder, go through the installer, unmount the VLC installer image by drag and dropping the mounted disk to your recycle bin, and delete the image file afterwards if you want to. It's getting tedious if you need to install a few 3rd party apps this way.
Windows: Download installer, double click on installer, go through installer steps, installed. (For some, even a password is required)
Hackintoshing is only for the guys who really understands the in and outs of MacOS.
I know its cool to geek out with non-apple hardware to your friends...
I even had a lady asking me why I did it, and not buying Apple hardware, she was legit freaked out, and could not comprehend it.
She was mad at me for doing this sort of thing...
So, doing this will most likely not attract Apple fiends, with them shunning you and call you a freak, saying you sinned against the Apple gods for doing this unforgivable sin.
Sorry for this long post, I had to get a few things off my shoulders...
The config.plist, I actually went through all the stuff, and built the config.plist, by getting all the details from running Windows, and then later in a MacOS VM, to create the installer (High Sierra), which things improved drastically since then with a Windows script that creates a installer USB.
I ran Mojave on the one, and High Sierra on the other laptop. The config.plist on my last attempt on hackintoshing, I cheated a little and used a Github repo, that was compatible with my laptop hardware. I had to fettle with EVERY kext to get something working. Shortcut keys? Major PITA. Brightness control? Eish. Eventually got it under control.
What wasn't working? Wireless. You have a Intel Wi-Fi chip? Chances are, it's not supported, yet. Best to run with a compatible wireless chip, here is the list of confirmed working Wi-Fi hardware: https://dortania.github.io/Wireless-Buyers-Guide/unsupported.html#supported-chipsets.
I've been lucky to get USB 3.0 working, but also a headache.
Touchpad? Same problem. Had to use a external mouse to get by sometimes. There's really not right-click on the touchpad, so, you have been warned.
If you want to Hackintosh your G50-70, I'd recommend that you buy a SSD or get a extra unused SSD, because Apple's HFS disk format runs better on a SSD, and WILL WIPE everything on that disk. I tried with a HDD, but it messed it up badly.
If you REALLY want to run with MacOS, there's a few guides out there, to get MacOS running on a VM, I'd choose that over spending countless hours of doing absolutely nothing to get the real install working, with half of the stuff broken, unsupported.
Trust me, it's not worth it to start with MacOS, unless you want to start with Apple related things, such as developing iOS apps, etc.
Or the advertisement for that it "just works"? true, in a sense, but trying to get things done fast, and with Finder littering your desktop? Not for me.
Also, installing simple apps, for example, VLC.
Linux: open a terminal, type one line, and possibly typing in a password. Boom, installed. Heck, you can even install like 15 programs in one terminal command.
MacOS: Download the VLC image file from their site, double click to mount it, type in password, opening the mounted image file, drag and dropping the humongous icon into your applications folder, go through the installer, unmount the VLC installer image by drag and dropping the mounted disk to your recycle bin, and delete the image file afterwards if you want to. It's getting tedious if you need to install a few 3rd party apps this way.
Windows: Download installer, double click on installer, go through installer steps, installed. (For some, even a password is required)
Hackintoshing is only for the guys who really understands the in and outs of MacOS.
I know its cool to geek out with non-apple hardware to your friends...
I even had a lady asking me why I did it, and not buying Apple hardware, she was legit freaked out, and could not comprehend it.
She was mad at me for doing this sort of thing...
So, doing this will most likely not attract Apple fiends, with them shunning you and call you a freak, saying you sinned against the Apple gods for doing this unforgivable sin.
Sorry for this long post, I had to get a few things off my shoulders...
Gravedigger
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Oh, and while the installer can work, you need to start at a proper point, by following Dortania's guide. The webpage can be confusing sometimes, there's actually VERY valuable info on there.
Most likely what happens with your install, is that the sleep is not configured properly, and probably missing a kext or two, or got the wrong ones.
Sleep was partly broken on my earlier install, and also froze when it went into sleep. Had to disable sleep, and had to power off the laptop when I really wanted it to go to "sleep".
After the initial install, you will need to boot from the installer again, but this time, select the disk you installed it to, and copy over the EFI partition contents over from the installer USB to the installed EFI partition on the freshly installed MacOS.
You could always switch on the debugging console, during boot, and see what's going on.
And I will not be hackintoshing any time soon now, that is over for me, for now. Unless my wife-to-be wants to go the Apple way.
Oracle's VirtualBox did really work well with the USB passthrough, no need to pass through the PCI stuff, only the USB for the USB flash disk.
Most likely what happens with your install, is that the sleep is not configured properly, and probably missing a kext or two, or got the wrong ones.
Sleep was partly broken on my earlier install, and also froze when it went into sleep. Had to disable sleep, and had to power off the laptop when I really wanted it to go to "sleep".
After the initial install, you will need to boot from the installer again, but this time, select the disk you installed it to, and copy over the EFI partition contents over from the installer USB to the installed EFI partition on the freshly installed MacOS.
You could always switch on the debugging console, during boot, and see what's going on.
And I will not be hackintoshing any time soon now, that is over for me, for now. Unless my wife-to-be wants to go the Apple way.
Oracle's VirtualBox did really work well with the USB passthrough, no need to pass through the PCI stuff, only the USB for the USB flash disk.
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shadow_man
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You've clearly never used Brew...
Code:
$ brew install --cask vlcGravedigger
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Valid point, I think that I had used brew at one point, but most MacOS users is not going to be installing Brew, they don't like using the terminal. Some Mac users thought that I was hacking the Pentagon just by opening/using the terminal, when I hackintoshed back then.You've clearly never used Brew...
Code:$ brew install --cask vlc
EDIT: I spoke to my ex-colleague the other day, he was actually concerned that by opening the terminal, he will break the OS. Well, yes and no. Depends on what you're doing in the terminal.
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SauRoNZA
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Installing the vast majority of Apps on MacOS is much simpler than any other platform because there is no installer and the same applies to VLC.
You open the image and you drop it in Apps. That’s it, damn simple and with keyboard shortcuts even faster to eject and delete.
Those that do have installers more of than not delete the original download for you so even quicker and smoother.
And this is only when you need to actually manually install it because it’s not on the AppStore which is becoming rarer and rarer.
But this is something people who only know that use it as a daily driver and didn’t just half baked install it one on a fake Mac and struggled with it for 5 minutes.
kronoSX
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what advice was that,advice was given to purchase a mini,and the camera advice i remember was people saying go study first then come back,so i dont know what you on about but i take advice from everyone and do just that,I cant afford the mac,,i cant sell those laptops cause they are my load shedding devices and even if they look good they are kina old and i wont get a good price for them.Yes, because we all love spending hours of our time providing free services to people who don't / won't listen.
You've been given sound advice, but at every turn (same as the Linux camera thread) you choose to ignore it.
It's become pointless trying to assist.
I did get a broken mac, itried fixing it with a brand new screen which i happen to have in stock.I struggles for 30 mins trying to plug it in from the main board and it wont clip in,SO i left that now for another day.
I ask for help cause i struggles for a few hours to get the mac software to install,I did everything right, its just that last 2 minutes it crashes.I thought there would be people here that done it already so many times and could help me build there own iso so i could test there one.It could be my hardware or the plist cinfig file.
Believe me i even tried osx-kvm on linux, it also went well then qemu just booted and freeze at the shel....i mean i followed the exact instructions to the T man,i am just bad luck.
Anyway i do need the help, share if you must or dont,I am sure someone will help someday.
kronoSX
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man the best post in this thread by far.Ok let me begin.
I really dont need wifi and i dont care about the mac gods...lol
SO you say run mac in windows as a vm and get the config plist from there,i would like to know how ..lol
I not trying to geek out.All i want to build the hackintosh to run iphones from usb as emulation for usb kind of dont really work with most of the programs designed for mac..example checkra1n,it needs true usb passthorugh and not emulation.sliver etc and magcfg etc etc,.Believe i tried on vm and vmware station say usb passthought works but it dont.A simple ssh ramddisk program wont even boot the ramdisk, it needs true passthrough.
the way you got the config plist can you guide me on that one.THe kext and efi folders are all correct i checked them .
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AfricanTech
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For that broken mac what happens when you plug in an external screen?
Gravedigger
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Well, regarding on the config.plist creation, which can be done in Windows, you will need to follow this very resourceful Dortania OpenCore page.
Make a backup of your current stuff, and start from scratch, that you don't miss something.
Getting started with OpenCore | OpenCore Install Guide
dortania.github.io
Like I mentioned in my previous post, installing to a SSD is actually a must.
I kept my Win install on one HDD, and bought a cheap SSD from TaL for MacOS.
I ran all the tools and stuff on the Windows OS (Must run on the same hardware you are intending to boot MacOS on), verified everything, and then proceeded to swap out the HDD for the SSD, and install it on there.
Sssuming you got all the SSDTs and kexts for your hardware, then you can start looking to create the config.plist.
Creating the USB | OpenCore Install Guide
dortania.github.io
You will see that there's a few extra resources you need to download.
On the left of that page mentioned above, you will need to read through this stuff. (I usually read through the stuff first, and try to understand them before I do anything)
You will note that the base config.plist for Desktop and Laptop CPU's are different. (Different registers, etc), so be warned.
So just you know, I don't have the time or inclination to do this config.plist creation for you, I can only point you in the correct direction.
I am busy with much more difficult stuff than getting MacOS running on non-apple hardware.
EDIT: I understand that the VMs is not an option, you need to run some "native" macOS only software, that needs actual USB, and not USB passthrough or something like that from a VM.
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kronoSX
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i used the thunderbolt to hdmi,,,i plugged in and the ext screen blinked went black and then after a few seconds sent error no source detected,i used the f1 key and cn key to switch, nothing happened,i tried everything from bootable macos install usb, recovery menues all boot keys for reset nvram etc etc, plugged in borken screen plugged out broken screem, clamshell mode..etc etc,nothing worked not a single dot on the external..lol.I can hear the mac is running just no external signal.
I have given up after 4 hours of tinkering.
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kronoSX
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thnak you so i did get a ssd drive 250 gig one.SO what i understand is when installing mac i need to point to the external to install the OSX.I read this can be done so when the laptop boots i will do the boot manager and select the external right,or are you saying i must swop the drive in my laptop to the ssd drive.either way i think it will still work.
I am gonna scrub the flash and start over and follow your link tutorial.NB...i still working on that probook to get signal to hdmi cause the new screen wont plug in and that darn cable is so short..lol