Failed miserably in converting another to the Apple cult....

If you give her brain damage Im sure she would like the mac.

If that was supposed to come out as a witty riposte, in suggesting how only brain-damaged people would buy Mac - you failed miserably.
 
Thanks all for the feedback on the Dell's. Reckon R10-R11k will get us a decent laptop - that will hopefully just do what it's supposed to.

One last question - besides potentially better prices - is there a chance a Dell bought from IC, as opposed to a dedicated pc shop might have more bloatware on? I.e. - might a manufacturer place more "perks/crapware" on laptops earmarked to go to bigger retailers, which would have a broader market? Or would it be pretty much the same, regardless?

Got my Dell from IC (they actually had the best price believe it or not... I sure didn't). Didn't have any bloatware that didn't take more than 5min to remove. You can get some nice machines in that price range btw.
 
Dell would be my first choice, although I have also had no issues with HP. Will never buy Toshiba again. The hardware was fine, but every machine came with loads of rubbish, some of which couldn't even be uninstalled. To top it off Toshiba had a screw you attitude when asking for help to get the stuff off. And this was on some very expensive machines, not the budget level stuff.
 
If that was supposed to come out as a witty riposte, in suggesting how only brain-damaged people would buy Mac - you failed miserably.

No, it was an honest suggestion ;)

And no, your usage of the term "witty riposte" is incorrect. It implies some kinda banter or repertoire before hand which there was none. It was just a comment.
 
No, it was an honest suggestion ;)

And no, your usage of the term "witty riposte" is incorrect. It implies some kinda banter or repertoire before hand which there was none. It was just a comment.

How often do people tell you that you are annoying? Honest question.
 
How often do people tell you that you are annoying? Honest question.

Almost never.

How often do people tell you are pedophile? Honest question.

Its very easy to disguise an insult as a question I see. Thanks for the tip.
 
I got my wife a MacBook Air for her birthday. She's very clued up with Windows, but had never used OS X and had absolutely no clue how to use it. After about 3 days of using it, she never wanted to see Windows again :)

It's not too steep a learning curve. I believe this because if my wife can do it, anyone can, and she is the most technologically challenged person I know.
 
I got my wife a MacBook Air for her birthday. She's very clued up with Windows, but had never used OS X and had absolutely no clue how to use it. After about 3 days of using it, she never wanted to see Windows again

It's not too steep a learning curve. I believe this because if my wife can do it, anyone can, and she is the most technologically challenged person I know.

Apple have one major thing going for them, if you have all their devices, mac, osx, iphone, ipad etc everything works flippin well together.
As a Windows user using osx mountain lion for 4 weeks now and I don't really miss Windows at all.
 
Apple have one major thing going for them, if you have all their devices, mac, osx, iphone, ipad etc everything works flippin well together.
As a Windows user using osx mountain lion for 4 weeks now and I don't really miss Windows at all.

Not interested in starting a nerd war or anything, but how is this different to windows? I've got a Lumia running windows phone 8, and a laptop running windows 8, and the integration is phenomenal. It's unbelievable how well they co-exist actually. What am I missing form the mac world?

EDIT: Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against mac... just curious what i'm not seeing.
 
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I haven't been happy with any of the toshibas we've had. Dells on the other hand... very happy. Everything we buy these days is Dell. We've needed to replace things a few times (yeah, you really shouldn't drop your laptop), and their next day service has always been phenomenal. If you can't get the mac you want, I'd recommend a Dell over most other manufacturers.
Absolutely. I've had to replace a plastic cover on my screen, and the screen itself, and they were out the next day to fix it. It was entirely my own fault when things broke, but they never questioned it. That 3 year next business day warranty is FTW.
 
Not interested in starting a nerd war or anything, but how is this different to windows? I've got a Lumia running windows phone 8, and a laptop running windows 8, and the integration is phenomenal. It's unbelievable how well they co-exist actually. What am I missing form the mac world?

EDIT: Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against mac... just curious what i'm not seeing.

I come from Windows 8, android, apple background so my fault there, only now am I actually seeing that sticking to one brand is the best option.
I think windows/microsoft etc are only now doing what apple have been achieving for ages?

Apple stuff is definitely a niche and expensive environment to be in.
But over the last 4 weeks I have begun to appreciate why people use their products.
 
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Thanks all for the feedback on the Dell's. Reckon R10-R11k will get us a decent laptop - that will hopefully just do what it's supposed to.

One last question - besides potentially better prices - is there a chance a Dell bought from IC, as opposed to a dedicated pc shop might have more bloatware on? I.e. - might a manufacturer place more "perks/crapware" on laptops earmarked to go to bigger retailers, which would have a broader market? Or would it be pretty much the same, regardless?

There's no chance the same model laptop bought from IC and from a pc shop would have different bloatware - in fact, they probably come from the same distributor behind the scences.

The only problem buying a Dell from IC is that they (afaik) only stock the Dell Inspiron range - which is the home entertainment/entry-level range.
With a budget of 10-11K, you could be looking at a solid Dell Latitude (much better build, more business/corporate range than Inspirons) machine, and that you'll only find from a Dell/general IT reseller (such as a smaller PC store/IT 'guy').

Hope that clears it up..
 
I think windows/microsoft etc are only now doing what apple have been achieving for ages?

I think I have to agree there.

And yeah, as much as we hate being locked into a single platform / brand, it does have its benefits. My live account for example is my gateway to all my services.

1. Skydrive for syncing all my docs between my phone and laptop (like dropbox)... Windows phone also has automatic skydrive integration so things like uploading photos automatically are taken care of (just like an android / dropbox set up)
2. Lost my phone? Log in via WindowsPhone.com -> Track phone using its GPS / Lock Phone / Wipe Phone.
3. I log into my azure hosting platform using my live account
4. Log into my windows machine of course
5. Install apps for my phone from the web browser
6. I can install office on 5 different machines using the same account (office 356 purchase required of course)... and those docs are stored on my skydrive, and available to edit on my phone using office on my phone. I don't need to set up skydrive integration in office, because it's all linked to the live account I logged into windows with... windows account / skydrive / office all using the same authentication.

All of these things can be done using multiple vendors / platforms sure, but having them all linked to my one account, and all integrated together by the same vendor is making my life super easy at the moment.

I would imagine that this approach has been replicated by studying the likes of apple to a large degree, but also because for a while now they've been able to leverage their cloud computing platform Azure, and it's making it a lot easier to provide such tight integration.
 
There's no chance the same model laptop bought from IC and from a pc shop would have different bloatware - in fact, they probably come from the same distributor behind the scences.

The only problem buying a Dell from IC is that they (afaik) only stock the Dell Inspiron range - which is the home entertainment/entry-level range.
With a budget of 10-11K, you could be looking at a solid Dell Latitude (much better build, more business/corporate range than Inspirons) machine, and that you'll only find from a Dell/general IT reseller (such as a smaller PC store/IT 'guy').

Hope that clears it up..

Bought my Dell XPS from IC. R10 800 at the time.
 
There's no chance the same model laptop bought from IC and from a pc shop would have different bloatware - in fact, they probably come from the same distributor behind the scences.

The only problem buying a Dell from IC is that they (afaik) only stock the Dell Inspiron range - which is the home entertainment/entry-level range.
With a budget of 10-11K, you could be looking at a solid Dell Latitude (much better build, more business/corporate range than Inspirons) machine, and that you'll only find from a Dell/general IT reseller (such as a smaller PC store/IT 'guy').

Hope that clears it up..

Ah - thanks! I was wondering about the model differences - would want a Latitude rather Inspiron. Will check out Wootware.
 
Hey peeps - just to confirm: Would new laptops only be sold with Windows 8, or would one still be able to ask for/get Windows 7 pre-installed? Don't know anything about the former - how similar are the two still?
 
Hey peeps - just to confirm: Would new laptops only be sold with Windows 8, or would one still be able to ask for/get Windows 7 pre-installed? Don't know anything about the former - how similar are the two still?

Apologies. Some more searching has yielded plenty of Win 7 Pro... Would it be wiser to go for Win 8 rather?
 
I think I have to agree there.

And yeah, as much as we hate being locked into a single platform / brand, it does have its benefits. My live account for example is my gateway to all my services.

1. Skydrive for syncing all my docs between my phone and laptop (like dropbox)... Windows phone also has automatic skydrive integration so things like uploading photos automatically are taken care of (just like an android / dropbox set up)
2. Lost my phone? Log in via WindowsPhone.com -> Track phone using its GPS / Lock Phone / Wipe Phone.
3. I log into my azure hosting platform using my live account
4. Log into my windows machine of course
5. Install apps for my phone from the web browser
6. I can install office on 5 different machines using the same account (office 356 purchase required of course)... and those docs are stored on my skydrive, and available to edit on my phone using office on my phone. I don't need to set up skydrive integration in office, because it's all linked to the live account I logged into windows with... windows account / skydrive / office all using the same authentication.

All of these things can be done using multiple vendors / platforms sure, but having them all linked to my one account, and all integrated together by the same vendor is making my life super easy at the moment.

I would imagine that this approach has been replicated by studying the likes of apple to a large degree, but also because for a while now they've been able to leverage their cloud computing platform Azure, and it's making it a lot easier to provide such tight integration.

Problem comes with security, one compromise and they have access to everything.

I keep my Work email on outlook.com, Home mail on Gmail, Work files on Box.com, Home on Dropbox, Pictures on Picasa and so on.

On my PC/Mobile phone and Tablet everything is running just as if its all coming from a single integrated provider, its just separated by different authentications and not a single point of failure so to speak.

PC = Ubuntu
Mobile = Android
Tablet = iPad
 
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