Farm Attacks

Fudzy said:
Well the employees who commit murders are usually the most mistreated.
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Yeah, i've seen that first hand on many occassions. To be fair, my favourite wine producer, Stellar Organics, near the Vredendal area, treats their workers really good. I have bought wine many times personally there.
 
JustAsk said:
I'm still waiting...
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So sorry to have kept you waiting!

So this study published on SABC news (lol) with very little information about anything looked at 2000 cases out of how many murders in the last 20 years and came to that conclusion? Were these cases from across the board or from last year in Diepsloot for example? Until we have actual data showing crime by race (I wonder why, in a country with a government so obsessed by race, that isn't happening?) all we have is anecdotal evidence. I'm afraid I am forced to take the results of that with a gigantic pinch of salt. I'm not denying that these sorts of crimes happen and indeed are probably quite prevalent but that's hardly conclusive.

If we look at farm murders alone, the numbers (depending on the source) range from close to that 2000 figure up to roughly double that. Take the lower estimations and already we're looking at a one-sided, bleak picture.

Just for the record, I am not one of these people saying genocide is happening - as in it's some sort of carefully orchestrated plan. It's simply the result of co-existing in a broken society where a lack of moral compass and no value for life is commonplace.
 
Flanders said:
So sorry to have kept you waiting!

So this study published on SABC news (lol)...
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Desperate move...

You could've just copy and paste some of that text into your google machine to plenty links...and, god forbid, even the study itself.

Don't deflect now, you challenged the fact that most whites are killed by whites...now own your post and provide proof.

I know how this thing works. It is a numbers game. You just keep posting BS all day, every day. Some of it gets challenged, while many will slip through unchallenged and gets echoed and reposted...till it gets accepted as the truth.
 
JustAsk said:
Desperate move...

You could've just copy and paste some of that text into your google machine to plenty links...and, god forbid, even the study itself.

Don't deflect now, you challenged the fact that most whites are killed by whites...now own your post and provide proof.

I know how this thing works. It is a numbers game. You just keep posting BS all day, every day. Some of it gets challenged, while many will slip through unchallenged and gets echoed and reposted...till it gets accepted as the truth.
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Quite frankly, JustAsk, I'm pretty convinced that you actually don't know rat **** from rice crispies. You can cling to this half baked study all you like. Fact is, you can climb up as high on your horse as you like and demand proof which you know well you won't get because, like I mentioned, the actual statistics are not available (again, I WONDER WHY??). Also, because the stats are not available, another inconvenient fact is that you cannot back up your claims either with actual proof, can you?

Talk about someone spouting BS all day long...
 
JustAsk said:
Don't deflect now, you challenged the fact that most whites are killed by whites...now own your post and provide proof.
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GOOD GOD, you actually believe this, that most whites are killed by whites. What a secluded pedantic life you must live where you rationalize everything under the belief that blacks are poor innocent beings being mistreated on a continuous basis and ask for citations in a world where the media is completely aligned against a perspective where anything 'right-wing' can be construed from.
 
etienne_marais said:
GOOD GOD, you actually believe this, that most whites are killed by whites. What a secluded pedantic life you must live where you rationalize everything under the belief that blacks are poor innocent beings being mistreated on a continuous basis and ask for citations in a world where the media is completely aligned against a perspective where anything 'right-wing' can be construed from.
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provide proof or stfu.
 
etienne_marais said:
GOOD GOD, you actually believe this, that most whites are killed by whites. What a secluded pedantic life you must live where you rationalize everything under the belief that blacks are poor innocent beings being mistreated on a continuous basis and ask for citations in a world where the media is completely aligned against a perspective where anything 'right-wing' can be construed from.
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You might not like his comment but he's right. You have to refute his comment with actual data (not the Steve Hofmeyr sort).
 
etienne_marais said:
GOOD GOD, you actually believe this, that most whites are killed by whites. What a secluded pedantic life you must live where you rationalize everything under the belief that blacks are poor innocent beings being mistreated on a continuous basis and ask for citations in a world where the media is completely aligned against a perspective where anything 'right-wing' can be construed from.
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Oh you poor right wingers, victims of the liberal media.

I'm sure that's the reason you can't find facts to support your contentions. It must be because the liberal media is hiding the truth. Definitely.

And that's why we must take your word as the truth: more murders of white people are committed by blacks than by whites. Because you KNOW this for a FACT.

I actually thought you, etienne_marais, were reasonably well educated. I guess I was wrong.
 
For proof we would need the police to release race-based statistics, a reasonable request in a world where you have to specify your race in a plethora of application and other forms.
 
etienne_marais said:
I am aware of a report with the racial makeup of the victims. A report with the race of the perpetrators, I doubt it.
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You can work that part out based on the fact that most murders are committed between people who know each other. I think unknown perpetrators make up about 17% of perpetrators.
 
R13... said:
You can work that part out based on the fact that most murders are committed between people who know each other. I think unknown perpetrators make up about 17% of perpetrators.
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And now deductive reasoning suffice to draw conclusions without empirical data and citations.
 
Fudzy said:
I do, but it's pointless relevance to farm attacks was a common trait with the pam32
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Never mind. I am not the sharpest knife in the cutlery box when it comes to Politics....at this stage living amongst fodder for way too long has taught me that there is no hope for us. No matter what Zuma and his ANC do, no how much they steal, no matter what breaks and what goes wrong.....they will still have the support of fodder.

Sad hey? There is no changing the rural support that the ANC has. That's all they know. ANC loyal supporters will not admit it even when directly questioned about who they voted for in the last elections.....they just say they did not vote....meanwhile I can see the yellow ANC Zuma T shirt under their jacket...And these poor people are HONEST...

Anyway, I digressed. I live amongst the Xhosa people here and they are not like Zuma and his rubbish clan. Xhosa's don't do the witchdoctor ****. Nicer people than anyone could imagine..but they still vote ANC.

This Country is effed up beyond belief. ANC knows that. And are relying on keeping stupid..stupid.

I don't know what to say anymore. I do not live in a nice house in Jozi or Cape Town. I am amongst the fodder.

That's all.
 
The Voice said:
I think we tend to notice White farmers being murdered a lot more, because even though they're a minority race group, they still occupy (I speak subject to correction) the majority of farms in the country. Same with murders of Whites in general: there are so many Black people, comparatively, that when they're victims of crime, it generally goes unnoticed. Because Whites are such a small group, any sort of negative action towards them sticks out like a sore thumb. I also understand where the whole "genocide" idea may come from: there are so few Whites, at the rate they're dying off, it may appear that the country will eventually "run out" of them if they're constant victims of violent crime? We simply don't reproduce at the same rate as Black people, either. So numbers may, in fact, be dwindling.
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Actually I've seen a stat to show when you factor in infante death rates and HIV etc that the white population growth is relatively high in Sa. White people world wide have been a blessing to this planet and must be encouraged to breed. The dwindling out of white people directly correlates with the end of civilisation. Regression for the first time since the dark ages.
 
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