Farm Attacks

Fact of the matter is that farm murders are often much more brutal compared to ordinary murders, and mostly fueled by racism and hate.

The government doesn't want to admit that it is a problem, and draws upon suitably agreeable statistics to support their flawed opinion. For them to admit there is a problem is for them to admit defeat, which will never happen.

When there's no more food left and we have to import all of our food, then we are truly and really ****ed.
 
Shaun108 said:
Fact of the matter is that farm murders are often much more brutal compared to ordinary murders, and mostly fueled by racism and hate.

The government doesn't want to admit that it is a problem, and draws upon suitably agreeable statistics to support their flawed opinion. For them to admit there is a problem is for them to admit defeat, which will never happen.

When there's no more food left and we have to import all of our food, then we are truly and really ****ed.
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Fact of the matter is that no one has time to go around comparing murders and associated injuries to determine if one murder is more brutal than the other, we all think murders are tragic and brutal but the farm murders/white genocide gang are not happy to be lumped in with everyone, that's why we have Afriforum, Etienne_marais, the MyBroederbond legion and this thread.
 
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thechamp said:
Fact of the matter is that no one has time to go around comparing murders and associated injuries to determine if one murder is more brutal than the other, we all think murders are tragic and brutal but the farm murders/white genocide gang are not happy to be lumped in with everyone, that's why we have Afriforum, Etienne_marais, the MyBroederbond legion and this thread.
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So what, it is the very constitution that protects your freedom of association. Why don't you start a thread with other atrocities and balance out the scenario ?
 
etienne_marais said:
So what, it is the very constitution that protects your freedom of association. Why don't you start a thread with other atrocities and balance out the scenario ?
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I have started many threads about South Africans being murdered, I have never found any value in starting a thread exclusively for a specific group of people being murdered, although they were never meant to balance some scenario.
 
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thechamp said:
I have started many threads about South Africans being murdered, I have never found any value in starting a thread exclusively for a specific group of people being murdered, although they were never meant to balance some scenario.
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Are you saying all lives matter?
 
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thechamp said:
I have started many threads about South Africans being murdered, I have never found any value in starting a thread exclusively for a specific group of people being murdered, although they were never meant to balance some scenario.
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Kudos on you then.

I will continue here until the per capita ratio is not multiples that of the police, never mind the national average.
 
thechamp said:
Fact of the matter is that no one has time to go around comparing murders and associated injuries to determine if one murder is more brutal than the other, we all think murders are tragic and brutal but the farm murders/white genocide gang are not happy to be lumped in with everyone, that's why we have Afriforum, Etienne_marais, the MyBroederbond legion and this thread.
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That is a delusion, there have always been murders that are worse than others, there have always been tragedies that are worse than others.

It's not that no one has time to do the comparing, it's that no one bothers to do it. This conveniently masks the real patterns. Then when someone like Afriforum actually starts doing part of the job of the police for them they are suddenly the enemy..... which means that you yourself profit in some way from all murders being "the same".

Fact is these are NOT normal murders, government wants people to believe they are normal murders because they want to eliminate the independent farmer class. Just like Mugabe suddenly invaded farms because the farmer class supported the MDC.

You keep trying to call it "normal".... torture parties where peoples eyelids are cut off so that they cannot look away while their families are gang-raped and their children are crucified or hung are NOT normal. The only normal part about it is that this is something marxists have done to "class enemies" throughout Africa. The more you keep trying to normalize it the more you look like you endorse it.
 
rambo919 said:
That is a delusion, there have always been murders that are worse than others, there have always been tragedies that are worse than others.

It's not that no one has time to do the comparing, it's that no one bothers to do it. This conveniently masks the real patterns. Then when someone like Afriforum actually starts doing part of the job of the police for them they are suddenly the enemy..... which means that you yourself profit in some way from all murders being "the same".

Fact is these are NOT normal murders, government wants people to believe they are normal murders because they want to eliminate the independent farmer class. Just like Mugabe suddenly invaded farms because the farmer class supported the MDC.

You keep trying to call it "normal".... torture parties where peoples eyelids are cut off so that they cannot look away while their families are gang-raped and their children are crucified or hung are NOT normal. The only normal part about it is that this is something marxists have done to "class enemies" throughout Africa. The more you keep trying to normalize it the more you look like you endorse it.
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Just want to ask again - do you perhaps have a link to the story of the eyelids or a picture?

This isn't to disprove that farm murders aren't real, this is just me questioning that we sit in an echo chamber where we hare all these horrible stories, and none of them are actually verified. Pouring boiling water on someone turns into someone being drowned in boiling water, someone being forced to watch his wife raped turns into his eyelids being cut off to watch. Next we'll have a story of the president sitting next to Malema.

My point is the murders are horrendous, but people are amplifying them and trying to make them SEEM DIFFERENT. You'll find most farmers have the same level of torture and brutality as women victims in rural areas. And if you are a black male your death basically means nothing in this country because 1.) not a farmer 2.) plenty of black males left and 3.) was probably by other black males
 
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You seem to be willfully confusing all deaths with torture type deaths...... when the latter is CLEARLY a special case.

If most deaths were as bad as far murders (of all races) then yes you would have a point..... but most deaths do NOT involved torture.

Even if farm murders now include people of all races, it's still primarily whites that are targets, if you wipe out all rural whites as well as an equal number of non-whites then you have already committed genocide even though you did not wipe out any other race. If for argument sake with normal crime you wipe out all whites in SA as well as an equal number of non-whites, you have committed genocide even if no other race was wiped out.

You do not need concentration camps or mass slaughters to do a genocide, that's just needed if you want to do a quick one.

Calling everything "normal crime" is not the get out clause you think it is. If any other minority other than whites were being directly targeted no one would shut up about it but because it's whites..... everyone actively shushes anyone saying anything about it until non-whites also become targets and then suddenly it's a problem. This is either sheer schizophrenia or a race hatered towards whites.

At this point I would not be surprised if for argument sake it ever happens that SA blacks wipe out all foreign blacks and someone will invent a new term for it because it will not be allowed to be called genocide.
 
Sollie said:
Favour please: Do your fact checking before trying to be a smart ass, proving you're not smart, by trying to dismiss facts. Think how somebody close to the victims feel when they read crap like yours making their reality off as something that did not happen. If you want to play wokey games pissin on people's deaths and the circumstances, rather go start a topic in off topic (or games section since you want to game everything). Have some frigging decency in this thread please.
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I'm actually surprised you managed to get that many results, most instances either get censored out or never make it to the press.
 
Sollie said:
You confuse issues, arrogantly correct people based upon your own confusion.

www.news24.com

Manhunt launched after robbers kill man, pour boiling water on wife during farm attack | News24

Gauteng police have launched a manhunt for four suspects after a 68-year-old man was murdered on his farm in Boschkop, Pretoria East.
www.news24.com www.news24.com
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www.dailymail.co.uk

The murders so brutal they shocked even South Africa: Couple shot dead, then son aged 12 is drowned in scalding bath

The men broke into the house in Johannesburg and assaulted and shot dead Tony and Geraldine Viana before pushing Amaro, pictured, into scalding water.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

Robbers drowned boy, 12, in boiling water | News24

Horrific evidence has been heard in the Vereeniging Regional Court where three men pleaded guilty to raping, robbing and killing a couple and their 12-year-old son.
www.news24.com www.news24.com

Favour please: Do your fact checking before trying to be a smart ass, proving you're not smart, by trying to dismiss facts. Think how somebody close to the victims feel when they read crap like yours making their reality off as something that did not happen. If you want to play wokey games pissin on people's deaths and the circumstances, rather go start a topic in off topic (or games section since you want to game everything). Have some frigging decency in this thread please.
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I asked for a link because i googled the carving up of eyelids, there are a lot of murders and graphic pics out there. I have seen many of the pics and articles but didn't see these, thank you for sharing.

Favour please: be consistent in your condemnation of inaccuracies or else you just come across as a hypcorite, thank you.
 
Sollie said:
Do you own damn research, don't sit here listening to you own echo chamber you create. If I can do it, you can too.

I did not condemn you for your inaccuracies, that is you game. I condemned you for being a hypocrite. Once again you can do your own research. Right here in this thread you and your sjw wokey bro's have all but trashed with high opinionated garbage, I pointed out the problem with obtaining stats and facts, also why.
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Awww, are you okay Sollie? I was told earlier that i love farm murders but me asking for an article set you off?
 
STS boet, you're starting to sound like you actually are condoning farm murders and brushing them off as "normal", even after proof was posted and compared to the other "normal" murders that occur in ZA.

It's not cool because farmers is where we get food from. You might have a mental health problem and I suggest professional help for your sake.
 
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