Fiber Optic Thunder/Lightning.

Gabriella394

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Hey guys I got fiber optic cables a couple of weeks ago. The guy who put it up for me said I must turn it off if there is thunder or lightning. Is that true? If u also have fibre do u do that?
 
lol

Well, your CPE is at risk from power surges through its power supply
But lighting isn't going to get into the fibre.
 
Can still get hit through the power lines but that'll take out more than the fibre modem

main reason its so expensive......

Firstly fibre isn't that expensive and secondly it's cost has nothing to do with lightning protection... The way the technology works simply doesn't allow the conduction of electricity, lightning protection is a happy side effect, that's all.
 
Agree! The CPE ( Customer Premises Equipment) is rather on the expensive side. If you do not have adequate surge protection plus a UPS as well, the risk of damage during lightning storms. power cuts etc) is higher than one would think.
 
You can get ordinary surges from power cables, but most copper-based modems have their DSL port on the chip fried due to the power traversing the copper cable itself up into your modem. The same does not happen on fibre which is glass...
 
The light from the lightning can travel through the fibre and cause your router to explode. You can put in a filter, a uv sun glass lens should do the trick.
 
I wonder
If you have an aerial fibre network...
And a pole gets struck and fibres are broken/exposed
Is there any chance of the flash or arc finding its way into the fibre? And toasting the receiver?
 
I wonder
If you have an aerial fibre network...
And a pole gets struck and fibres are broken/exposed
Is there any chance of the flash or arc finding its way into the fibre? And toasting the receiver?

No, unless the light is a very specific wavelength it won't travel down the glass strand it'll just reflect out.
 
No, unless the light is a very specific wavelength it won't travel down the glass strand it'll just reflect out.

Pretty sure lightning emits on all sorts of spectra?
Also, not sure how the strand can filter/reflect out certain wavelengths...
 
That^^^

If the light doesn't hit at the correct angle or is the wrong wavelength or is not very highly polarised it won't stay internally reflected like the signal and will bounce out the strand. It's impossible for the light from lightning to travel any distance along the strand, maybe, possibly a few cm's but then there's bigger problems than the light at that distance.
 
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Guys lightning is electricity not light. Although it gives light off it is in the visible spectrum so won't damage anything fiber even if some light had to travel "up" the fiber.

I don't know what the **** you guys are speaking about.
 
The expensive part of fiber is the trenching, ducting and access boxes. After that its the network equipment on the provider side. The CPE equipment does not even feature on the price. Depending on a few factors, you can work on R500-R1500 per meter when trenching.
To give you an idea, IIRC a lid of one of these stakboxes is around R2000 depending on the size
http://www.duralinesa.co.za/content/stakbox
 
Guys lightning is electricity not light. Although it gives light off it is in the visible spectrum so won't damage anything fiber even if some light had to travel "up" the fiber.

I don't know what the **** you guys are speaking about.

Got a spectral analysis of a lightning bolt flash? I'm curious
 
Guys lightning is electricity not light. Although it gives light off it is in the visible spectrum so won't damage anything fiber even if some light had to travel "up" the fiber.

I don't know what the **** you guys are speaking about.

I was thinking this was an april fools thread... thought my 'sun glass lens' fix hinted at that:D
 
The guy who put it up for me said I must turn it off if there is thunder or lightning. Is that true? If u also have fibre do u do that?
No reason that fiber will mean better protection for many reasons.

For example, fiber also has a messenger wire that serves many functions. For example, to make possible locating a buried cable. It is also a potential incoming path for a surge (ie lightning).

In one venue, their printer, computer, and ONT (fiber optic interface) were destroyed by lightning. Reason is obvious once one learns why damage occurs. A destructive surge is a current incoming and outgoing through some appliance. An outgoing path to earth is obvious - that ONT. Incoming path may be numerous. In this case, I replaced various semiconductors to restore all electronics (except for an ONT that was replaced by its ISP).

Meanwhile, nobody need power off or disconnect during any thunderstorm. Or does your town terminate phone service during every storm to protect their their multi-million Rand computers? Of course not. Telco switching centers (and that computer) suffer about 100 surges with each storm. And no damage. Because they do what you must do both for fiber and copper connections. Because they do what was done more than 100 years ago to even have direct lightning strikes without damage.

If your ONT (and other appliances) are at risk during a thunder storm, then turning it off does nothing. In one case, they foolishly used plug-in protectors on a network of powered off computers. Those plug-in protectors earthed a surge directly through that network - damaged many computers. We traced that electrical current path by literally replacing each damaged IC. We knew exactly how that surge got into and went out of each damaged electronic box.

Did you really think a millimeters gap in a power switch might stop what three kilometers of sky could not?

He who made a power off recommendation clearly did not know why a risk exists, how surges do damage, and how to avert damage. Fiber does not guarantee protection. Power off also is not protection. Protection even for fiber optic facilities is what was a proven solution even 100 years ago - proper earthing so that a surge does not enter a building. Required for many reasons including and not limited to a messenger wire that exists with an incoming fiber.
 
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