Fibre conduit and tips.

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Hi Guys

I applied for fibre on black Friday through M-Web. The techies arrived to install, but my current underground conduit is not large enough to take the fibre as well and they wanted to use my tTelkom line as a pull line to get the fibre through. I run a small business from home and don't want to loose my land line number.

What conduit should i use for the 50m stretch? i was looking at the following:

https://www.builders.co.za/Plumbing...MI1o7C_Lzy1wIVpp3tCh3Lxge6EAQYASABEgIBFvD_BwE

I know i will need to put a pull rope in as well.

sort of junction box at the telkom pole and the house like the following:

http://www.clipsal.com/Trade/Produc...Adaptable-Boxes-PVC?c=1&ms=5&mg=324&g=3244063

Anything i may not be thinking about? They told me if I trench it they will get the fibre to the house at no additional cost.

Thanks in advance guys.
 
You can port your landline number to VOIP and not lose it
 
Depending on distance, an option would be to use the existing Telkom wire to pull in a draw wire and then the draw wire can be used to pull through the same Telkom wire with the fiber.
That is if you can convince the Installation guys to do that.
 
Why don't you ask them if they can run aerial fibre into your place?
 
Arial wont work, the bottom of my garden look like crysis the game. Porting the number sound promising, I have my current number redirected to my cell would this still be possible?
 
JIMMYtheSKULL said:
Arial wont work, the bottom of my garden look like crysis the game. Porting the number sound promising, I have my current number redirected to my cell would this still be possible?
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I use Switchtel's R100 for 4 lines option, although they have a 1 line option for R49. https://www.switchtel.co.za/services/voip-line/
Switchtel does have the ability to call forward to your cell in their client zone.

Other options are Freshphone (free), but I'm not sure about call forwarding.

You would need an IP phone, or a router that has a telephone jack, or an FXS adapter to plug your phone into.

Edit: If you take up Telkom's fiber offer they apparently can also handle converting your POTS line into a VOIP line.
 
InusB said:
Depending on distance, an option would be to use the existing Telkom wire to pull in a draw wire and then the draw wire can be used to pull through the same Telkom wire with the fiber.
That is if you can convince the Installation guys to do that.
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mister said:
You can port your landline number to VOIP and not lose it
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marlin178 said:
Why don't you ask them if they can run aerial fibre into your place?
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Aerial fibre? You mean wireless? not as reliable and clearly the OP stated he is running a business from the premises, so can't afford downtime on his landline at all (while waiting to be ported) or have them cut his line (which they have to do to use it as a pull line)

If the conduit isn't big enough to house the telkom line AND fibre, he can't swap one for the other without kissing his business goodbye. So what are you geniuses solution to this? Because you clearly ignored the actual question with your 2-bit answers

@OP if your number is already forwarded to your cellphone, try disconnecting your landline (plugging it out entirely) and getting someone to phone your landline. If the call still comes through, then the switching happens on Telkom's side. You can confirm this with them before making the decision to have the techs destroy your telkom line just to pull fibre inside your house. If you still want to run your own conduit, best route are the links you sent, dig and have your own conduit installed and then get the techs to pull the wire through to your place
 
mister said:
I use Switchtel's R100 for 4 lines option, although they have a 1 line option for R49. https://www.switchtel.co.za/services/voip-line/
Switchtel does have the ability to call forward to your cell in their client zone.

Other options are Freshphone (free), but I'm not sure about call forwarding.

You would need an IP phone, or a router that has a telephone jack, or an FXS adapter to plug your phone into.

Edit: If you take up Telkom's fiber offer they apparently can also handle converting your POTS line into a VOIP line.
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His current number is already forwarded, why have him port to a voip service for them to then forward it anyway?
 
envo said:
Aerial fibre? You mean wireless? not as reliable and clearly the OP stated he is running a business from the premises, so can't afford downtime on his landline at all (while waiting to be ported) or have them cut his line (which they have to do to use it as a pull line)
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Aerial fiber = overhead fiber = the way openserve do it for normal homes.

Also, there is downtime of a an hour or two when porting, and it happens after business hours.

envo said:
@OP if your number is already forwarded to your cellphone, try disconnecting your landline (plugging it out entirely) and getting someone to phone your landline. If the call still comes through, then the switching happens on Telkom's side. You can confirm this with them before making the decision to have the techs destroy your telkom line just to pull fibre inside your house. If you still want to run your own conduit, best route are the links you sent, dig and have your own conduit installed and then get the techs to pull the wire through to your place
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Clearly you have no idea how Telkom call forwarding works...
 
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envo said:
His current number is already forwarded, why have him port to a voip service for them to then forward it anyway?
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Because

1) He might have to remove the physical line
2) Telkom's exorbitant line rental fees

The guy asked for various options, and we have given them.
 
envo said:
Aerial fibre? You mean wireless? not as reliable and clearly the OP stated he is running a business from the premises, so can't afford downtime on his landline at all (while waiting to be ported) or have them cut his line (which they have to do to use it as a pull line)

If the conduit isn't big enough to house the telkom line AND fibre, he can't swap one for the other without kissing his business goodbye. So what are you geniuses solution to this? Because you clearly ignored the actual question with your 2-bit answers

@OP if your number is already forwarded to your cellphone, try disconnecting your landline (plugging it out entirely) and getting someone to phone your landline. If the call still comes through, then the switching happens on Telkom's side. You can confirm this with them before making the decision to have the techs destroy your telkom line just to pull fibre inside your house. If you still want to run your own conduit, best route are the links you sent, dig and have your own conduit installed and then get the techs to pull the wire through to your place
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Not wireless.... I mean having them run the fibre from the pole/junction box into the OP's premises in the air...

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From the junction box:

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Will be trenching myself, just got off the line with mweb, and they have said porting the number can take up to two months. So once the fibre is in i will request the port , or investigate it thoroughly first. thanks for all the replies guys.
 
JIMMYtheSKULL said:
Will be trenching myself, just got off the line with mweb, and they have said porting the number can take up to two months.
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That's rubbish on their part... Switchtel approved three ports (at different times) within a day for me, and there was downtime (from some networks) of around 2 hours between 5pm and 7pm. It's all smooth sailing these days if your Telkom bill is paid up!
 
mister said:
That's rubbish on their part... Switchtel approved three ports (at different times) within a day for me, and there was downtime (from some networks) of around 2 hours between 5pm and 7pm. It's all smooth sailing these days if your Telkom bill is paid up!
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Not willing to be a test case. ill port once the fibre's in. I would hate a 2 month problem.
 
JIMMYtheSKULL said:
Hi Guys
I applied for fibre on black Friday through M-Web. The techies arrived to install, but my current underground conduit is not large enough to take the fibre as well and they wanted to use my tTelkom line as a pull line to get the fibre through. I run a small business from home and don't want to loose my land line number.
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Use the copper to pull through 2 fibre cables an then use the extra fibre cable to pull the copper back again.
 
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