Fibre overcharging

hjoseph said:
The concept here that there are two companies offering identical products but one charges double what the other charges and if you want that product then you are forced to pay the higher price while someone in a neighboring area can get the product at a much lower price. This may seem fair to you but it doesn’t to me.
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Well the same goes for a 2l bottle of milk for example.

It costs R32 at Woolworths but only R24 at Spar.

Woolworths is right across the road from you but the closest spar is 6km+ away.

It doesn't seem fair to you to have to drive 6km+ to buy the cheaper milk but that is just how it works. If you don't want to pay the price for the Woolworths milk then don't.

It would have been a different story if super markets colluded to all offer a 2l bottle at a fixed price of no less than R32 while it can be offered at a cheaper rate. That would be unfair and that would draw the attention of the competition commission. Same goes for fibre operators. The only real issue is where they have exclusive rights to operate. I don't agree with that but that is not as widespread of an issue anymore.
 
pinball wizard said:
Free market? Heard of it?

You okes bitching about this are like someone complaining that a VW costs more than a HAVAL.

Bitching at Vuma cause they are they only FNO in your area is not Vuma's fault. Bitch and moan at the other FNO's if you want to be serviced by them.
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Fck Vumatel for their extortionate pricing. They are well aware they no other FNOs are in the area yet, thus they can charge the rates they do.
 
cavedog said:
Well the same goes for a 2l bottle of milk for example.

It costs R32 at Woolworths but only R24 at Spar.

Woolworths is right across the road from you but the closest spar is 6km+ away.

It doesn't seem fair to you to have to drive 6km+ to buy the cheaper milk but that is just how it works. If you don't want to pay the price for the Woolworths milk then don't.

It would have been a different story if super markets colluded to all offer a 2l bottle at a fixed price of no less than R32 while it can be offered at a cheaper rate. That would be unfair and that would draw the attention of the competition commission. Same goes for fibre operators. The only real issue is where they have exclusive rights to operate. I don't agree with that but that is not as widespread of an issue anymore.
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Yes but I still have a choice. I’m not forced to pay the higher price if I want milk. In the case of fibre , I have no choice. If I want fibre, I have to go with Metrofibre as they have the monopoly in my area. Even though OpenServe is just a couple of Kms away, I cannot choose their service. My grouse is the disparity in the prices. I accept that there will be variations in pricing but to have to pay double, for the same service on a take it or leave it basis, is totally unfair.
 
I have a choice between Openserv and Metrofibre.
The Openserv fibre runs on the same poles as the copper line. To pull the fibre it took 2 persons with ladders about 2 hours in my yard. Then another 2 guys about 2 hours to put the distribution hub on the pole. The fibre from the pole into the house took less than hour by one person.

Metrofibre installation across the street: 1st the trencing team of 12 persons + trucks and a trenching machine whcih took a whole day for street. Then a team that digs a trench from the curb to property border and install the distribution hub. Then a team that actually lay the fibre in the street and seals it sort of. Then another team that does the proper sealing of the trench in the street. this in total in my street took 5 days. If you order metrofibre it take a day to run the fibre from the property border into the house because it goes underground.

So Metrofibre's cost to build a fibre infrastructure is astronomical compared to Openserve.
 
All relative compared to the technology. In 1987 you could buy a PC IBM AT for 4500 rand with 1 mb of ram (okay, forgotten how much ram there was). Chips are not cheap today either.
 
hjoseph said:
Yes but I still have a choice. I’m not forced to pay the higher price if I want milk. In the case of fibre , I have no choice. If I want fibre, I have to go with Metrofibre as they have the monopoly in my area. Even though OpenServe is just a couple of Kms away, I cannot choose their service. My grouse is the disparity in the prices. I accept that there will be variations in pricing but to have to pay double, for the same service on a take it or leave it basis, is totally unfair.
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You just have to wait until the 1st of June anyways.
 
You have a choice
Do
or
Don't
You also had a choice of where to stay and that brought you to a single FNO domicile

An unforced monopoly isn't really a monopoly,and they aren't charging more in your area than one that has competition so they aren't manipulating it locally for competition sake
Your area isn't deemed profitable or prioritized for another FNO to come spend millions to give you the chance to pay half,it happens

hjoseph said:
Yes but I still have a choice. I’m not forced to pay the higher price if I want milk. In the case of fibre , I have no choice. If I want fibre, I have to go with Metrofibre as they have the monopoly in my area. Even though OpenServe is just a couple of Kms away, I cannot choose their service. My grouse is the disparity in the prices. I accept that there will be variations in pricing but to have to pay double, for the same service on a take it or leave it basis, is totally unfair.
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Unlike openserve which had over 50 years to build a robust network and has all the infrastructure necessary to do rollouts in suburbs cheaply and quickly, these new FNO's have to maintain a new backbone and trench their way to you while maintaining a positive bank balance without government help.
 
LetsDance said:
All relative compared to the technology. In 1987 you could buy a PC IBM AT for 4500 rand with 1 mb of ram (okay, forgotten how much ram there was). Chips are not cheap today either.
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Sheer luxury! That was a whopping improvement over the PC IBM XT with its 640k ram.

But you were lucky. When I was a kid I had to live in a cardboard shoebox in middle of road...

Try tell that to the kids of today and they won't believe you.
 
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