Fibre Router

[mithrandi]

Also even if your AP has huge output, the client device probably does not, resulting in problems where you can receive just fine from the AP, but struggle to send (which hurts traffic in both directions due to ACK packets being delayed).

 

[Slootvreter]

Fiber router. In other words, a router.

 

[Slootvreter]

Hi guys! I had my Fibre connection installed yesterday. My ISP gave me a Netgear WNR2000v5 router, which is of 802.11n standard, and I have been experiencing really poor speeds in "dead spots" all over my home today (particularly downstairs, with the router upstairs). With a 100Mbps/50Mbps connection, my instinct tells me that I should upgrade to a better standard of router?

If I connect my laptop directly (wired) to the ONT, or modem, I get a 97Mbps download speed - all good, as normal - however, when I connect my laptop directly to the router over a wired connection, my download speed is struggling to get above 50Mbps. Would a 1900AC dual-band router improve this speed and/or range? What other tests could I do to ensure that it is indeed the router that is not quite good enough for me to reach close-r to my 100Mbps download speeds?

PS: sorry if I am sounding completely silly, but I am still learning all the lingo and about how everything works

AC is 5GHz, might not improve indoor range.

EDIT: That goes for wifi. The fact that you're not getting it over a wired connection to that router, means you will probably have to buy a better brand, and AC does not have anything to do with that.

 

[Kappie 17]

Thanks everyone. Just to clear things up, you're saying that a better brand of router (my current one is Netgear, albeit entry level) will help increase my speeds? That said, is any given AC1900 router with the capability of "up to" 1300Mbps on the 5GHz band/frequency and 600Mbps on the 2.4GHz band/frequency going to improve my speed? I know that it won't necessarily improve the range, although it may do so as well, but with 4 x Gigabit Internet Ports and 1 x Gigabit WAN Port, my line speed is still limited to 100Mbps/50Mbps, so how will these values of 1300Mbps and 600Mbps work? Will each client have this speed, divided by the amount of clients connected? Or will this be limited to my 100Mbps/50Mbps line speed? Also, because of its 1300Mbps and 600Mbps capabilities, would that enable each user (assuming a max of 13/6 clients are connected) to get speeds of close to 100Mbps/50Mbps, or 100Mbps combined up and down? Again, sorry for my ignorance - I wish I knew more!

 

[Soprono]

Thanks everyone. Just to clear things up, you're saying that a better brand of router (my current one is Netgear, albeit entry level) will help increase my speeds? That said, is any given AC1900 router with the capability of "up to" 1300Mbps on the 5GHz band/frequency and 600Mbps on the 2.4GHz band/frequency going to improve my speed? I know that it won't necessarily improve the range, although it may do so as well, but with 4 x Gigabit Internet Ports and 1 x Gigabit WAN Port, my line speed is still limited to 100Mbps/50Mbps, so how will these values of 1300Mbps and 600Mbps work? Will each client have this speed, divided by the amount of clients connected? Or will this be limited to my 100Mbps/50Mbps line speed? Also, because of its 1300Mbps and 600Mbps capabilities, would that enable each user (assuming a max of 13/6 clients are connected) to get speeds of close to 100Mbps/50Mbps, or 100Mbps combined up and down? Again, sorry for my ignorance - I wish I knew more!

Your band speeds come into play when your doing internal traffic too if required, example we have a 100mbps line in the house and Wifi that well exceeds that threshold however because there is streaming going on to the media server and all sorts of other network traffic happening at the same time it all begins to eat at the total cap the Wireless devices offer.

With a increased in throughput that the router will offer allows us to concurrently use devices all pulling different sorts of traffic and such to not disrupt or rate limit anyone because of throughput running out. It's a simple way I guess of putting it.

 

[Slootvreter]

Thanks everyone. Just to clear things up, you're saying that a better brand of router (my current one is Netgear, albeit entry level) will help increase my speeds? That said, is any given AC1900 router with the capability of "up to" 1300Mbps on the 5GHz band/frequency and 600Mbps on the 2.4GHz band/frequency going to improve my speed? I know that it won't necessarily improve the range, although it may do so as well, but with 4 x Gigabit Internet Ports and 1 x Gigabit WAN Port, my line speed is still limited to 100Mbps/50Mbps, so how will these values of 1300Mbps and 600Mbps work? Will each client have this speed, divided by the amount of clients connected? Or will this be limited to my 100Mbps/50Mbps line speed? Also, because of its 1300Mbps and 600Mbps capabilities, would that enable each user (assuming a max of 13/6 clients are connected) to get speeds of close to 100Mbps/50Mbps, or 100Mbps combined up and down? Again, sorry for my ignorance - I wish I knew more!

You mentioned that you connect your laptop directly to the router with a cable, so 2.4 and 5ghz would not make any difference. That is only for wireless devices. 5Ghz is likely to give you better throughput, but somewhat less indoor range than 2.4.

Also, the "up to" speeds are theoretical maximums of the 802.11 wireless specifications, in a perfect lab environment.

What you are interested in are the LAN ports. The fact that you are not even getting 100Mbps on an ethernet port indicates to me that it is not a very powerful router.

Perhaps someone else can go into detail or correct me where I'm wrong.

EDIT: Also, each user will contend for a piece of your total bandwidth. Every user will not get the maximum. You cannot have two devices each doing 100mbps down on your line.

 

[rawoke]

Also just be aware of this:

Fibre Router (can be confusing) - you will need a Fibre ONT(Optical network Terminal ) this is provided by the fibre-network (usually - was in my case in OpenServe)

You can just use your *normal* wifi/adsl-router not (ADSL-Modem) to propagate the fibre link from your ONT to your local LAN.

I bought a "router" when I signed up thinking I need a "fibre-router" but it was a normal wifi-router i received and need :/

 

[Kappie 17]

Okay, so if an AC1900 router allows up to 1300Mbps and 600Mbps, then on the 5GHz band, 13 clients can use a connection of around 100Mbps, and on the 2.4GHz band, 6 users can do similarly? Or would the 1300 and 600 be used for both upload and download speeds?

 

[Kappie 17]

My current router is an N300 (I think), which to my understanding only offers 100Mbps speeds, for BOTH uploading and downloading (please correct me if I am wrong)? That would explain why my combined WIRED connection speeds are always less than 100Mbps (45+48ish)?! This router only has 10/100Mbps LAN ports, and one 10/100Mbps WAN port - is this the reason for my total speed limitation of under 100Mbps combined?

 

[Slootvreter]

Okay, so if an AC1900 router allows up to 1300Mbps and 600Mbps, then on the 5GHz band, 13 clients can use a connection of around 100Mbps, and on the 2.4GHz band, 6 users can do similarly? Or would the 1300 and 600 be used for both upload and download speeds?

The wireless specs are aggregate throughput AFAIK, meaning it's not 1300 up and 1300 down, but could be 1000 up and 300 down, depending on the demand.

The number of clients depends on your router's config, default for a home router is around 16 (Huawei and AudioCodes, and some DLink devices which allow you to change it), meaning 16 users will contend for the maximum bandwidth of your uplink (100Mbps in this case).

My current router is an N300 (I think), which to my understanding only offers 100Mbps speeds, for BOTH uploading and downloading (please correct me if I am wrong)? That would explain why my combined WIRED connection speeds are always less than 100Mbps (45+48ish)?! This router only has 10/100Mbps LAN ports, and one 10/100Mbps WAN port - is this the reason for my total speed limitation of under 100Mbps combined?

Ethernet ports on routers are usually full duplex, meaning 100 up and 100 down. The router might just not be powerful enough to push that much data through.

 

[Kappie 17]

Thank you all for the help. I think I may get one of those AC1900 routers, a Tenda from my ISP (very similar specs to the Netgear Nighthawk R7000 and the TP-Link C1900), along with an AP extender or two - anyone have any experience or thoughts about this Tenda AC18?

If, for instance, two clients are connected to the router's wireless on the 5GHz band, would that allow each of those clients to link at speeds close to 100Mbps? I am one of a family of four, and I alone have 1 laptop, 1 iPad, a Smart TV, an iPhone, PS4 and PC - I just want to make sure that the router I buy is going to give me better speeds, granted not all of the devices around the house are connected?! I am paying for 100Mbps/50Mbps and just want to get the most out of what I'm paying for.

EDIT: http://routerchart.com/compare/netg...-ac18-ac18-245,tp-link-archer-c1900-c1900-170

 

[Slootvreter]

Thank you all for the help. I think I may get one of those AC1900 routers, a Tenda from my ISP (very similar specs to the Netgear Nighthawk router), along with an AP extender or two - anyone have any experience or thoughts about this Tenda AC18?

If, for instance, two clients are connected to the router's wireless on the 5GHz band, would that allow each of those clients to link at speeds close to 100Mbps? I am one of a family of four, and I alone have 1 laptop, 1 iPad, a Smart TV, an iPhone, PS4 and PC - I just want to make sure that the router I buy is going to give me better speeds, granted not all of the devices around the house are connected?! I am paying for 100Mbps/50Mbps and just want to get the most out of what I'm paying for.

EDIT: http://routerchart.com/compare/netg...-ac18-ac18-245,tp-link-archer-c1900-c1900-170

5Ghz is not the alpha and omega of wifi. Sure, it can carry more data due to the channel configuration, and lack of indoor interference, but walls and doors with metal frames, etc, can also be obstacles. In my house, 2.4Ghz performs better than 5. It's not possible to tell you if you will get a 100Mbps connection on all your devices. Most likely it will jump between 50 and 100 or more, depending on where you are in the house and how far you are form the router and what's in between you and the router.

I am not sure what you are trying to find out regarding the 100Mbps, you seem to be stuck on that. Depending on your ISP account, the speedtest will likely always give you the perfect result, but other types of data streams might be throttled.

 

[Kappie 17]

What I mean is, if my line speed from my ISP is 100Mbps/50Mbps, if I get a router that is capable of 1300Mbps on the 5GHz band, my connection would be limited to 100Mbps down (correct?), if and only if that device is the only client? I know that I will never get speeds of exactly 100Mbps, but my question is whether a better router will improve my speed?

I want a router that is poweful/good enough for my connection, so that if I disable wifi, hardwire my laptop and acheive close to 100Mbps down on a speed test (assuming my laptop is capable).

 

[Slootvreter]

What I mean is, if my line speed from my ISP is 100Mbps/50Mbps, if I get a router that is capable of 1300Mbps on the 5GHz band, my connection would be limited to 100Mbps down (correct?), if and only if that device is the only client? I know that I will never get speeds of exactly 100Mbps, but my question is whether a better router will improve my speed?

That is correct. Only as fast as the slowest link.

A more powerful router will probably give you what you need.

 

[Kappie 17]

So get a new router, and soon I'll be able to get the most out of my fibre connection? Any thoughts on the Tenda AC18? I can get it direct from my ISP, and for a fraction of the price of that for a Nighthawk and Archer C1900 http://routerchart.com/compare/netg...-ac18-ac18-245,tp-link-archer-c1900-c1900-170

In essence, an AC1900 router will allow more devices to connect over WiFi, and at higher speeds? I'm assuming that the router is capable of 1300+600Mbps "throughput", so 1900Mbps total to all of its clients? In reality I know it won't be 1900Mbps, but it'll be better than what my current N300 router allows? Thanks for all your help everyone!

 

[Slootvreter]

I think someone with actual experience of the routers you mention should make a recommendation.

 

[wezhira]

I would suggest you could get a dedicated router and a dedicated. Access Point.
For the WiFi.
The Mikrotik routers are excellent.
And access points the ubiquiti are pretty affordable and can cover a house

 

[Kappie 17]

Hi guys. I’ve been experiencing a highly irritating issue with my router recently. Every few days (sometimes daily), I lose my internet connection when connected to my router. There is absolutely no issue with my fibre line. Each time I lose this connection, I need to reboot my router to regain connection. When I try to connect to the router BEFORE rebooting, my browser identifies some sort of IP address error or clash. I’m not sure if this has something to do with “lease” settings or the like, but it’s incredibly frustrating and if anyone knows what could be causing this, I’d greatly appreciate some feedback. Thanks!

 

[Genisys]

Get a proper router like a Ubiquity USG and you'll be sorted. Use the existing router as a WiFi AP. I never reboot any of my routers, and I never have issues with them, they are all good.

 

[Kappie 17]

Get a proper router like a Ubiquity USG and you'll be sorted. Use the existing router as a WiFi AP. I never reboot any of my routers, and I never have issues with them, they are all good.

I’m sure a new router would resolve this issue, but I’m more interested in finding the cause of the issue. If it’s purely due to the router itself, then so be it, but if it’s something more trivial like a setting, then I’d like to find the cause. Thanks