Fifa frets over 2010 stadiums

marine1 said:
Ok for the last time child, go and read the bottom conclusion of "your" website. if you can not listen the first three times maybe you are just arrogant? Now if you be so kind and thoughtfull of the people here, back to topic.
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Again your inability to refrain from personal attacks clearly shows your intellectual weakness.
 
Wow.

From FIFA fretting to GVT not doing anything to GVT not spending donations/loans/pledges correctly to BobbyMac calling people names to GVT not helping people with AIDS...........

Just wow. I'll try and stay on-topic.

Here's a quote for you:
killadoob said:
man you guys are not cool

the best thing to happen to s.a ever you want it stopped

i pity you okes
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Let's think about this. Forget about what happens after the WC, anything can happen afterwards. People might loose their WC jobs or people might not. I won't make any assumptions here. But I'd like to think that we'd be better off having a successful WC.

I will however like to make a few assumptions on what might happen if our GVT does FUD this up and it gets pulled. If our economy suffers to the extent that joblessness doubles, what do you think that would do to crime levels?

You think we got it bad now? Watch what happens if we loose the WC.

To the Yay-sayers and optimists: What are you doing to help the WC along? Writing GVT and telling that you believe in them and that you believe that they will pull this off. What else can you do, really?

To the Nay-sayers and pessimists: Opposite question. If you're so against the WC in SA or don't believe that our GVT can pull it off. What are you doing? Starting petitions, or maybe a website highlighting the problems?

I know I sure as hell won't do either. But you know what........ at least we're discussing it here.

At least we're all talk........

PS: I said I'd try to stay on topic but I'm not even sure if I'm on or not. :)
 
Highflyer_GP said:
Alcohol is not even allowed into cricket matches. It wasn't allowed into the cricket world cup. The soccer world cup is multiple times bigger. wtf are you smoking dude?
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I think you'll only be allowed to drink Budweiser in and around the stadiums. Budweiser is FIFA's official booze sponsor. It's such a pity it tastes like urine.

If I'm not mistaken I think I might have seen beer kegs in the stadiums during cricket matches. Recently I went to a soccer match at Ellis Park and beer was on sale before kickoff.
 
Bageloo said:
I think you'll only be allowed to drink Budweiser in and around the stadiums. Budweiser is FIFA's official booze sponsor. It's such a pity it tastes like urine.

If I'm not mistaken I think I might have seen beer kegs in the stadiums during cricket matches. Recently I went to a soccer match at Ellis Park and beer was on sale before kickoff.
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Yeah you can buy beer inside the stadium, but you're not allowed to bring in any of your own stuff, which is what he kind of implied. You certainly wouldn't be allowed to consume any spirit stuff which has a high alcohol concentration.
 
Highflyer_GP said:
Yeah you can buy beer inside the stadium, but you're not allowed to bring in any of your own stuff, which is what he kind of implied. You certainly wouldn't be allowed to consume any spirit stuff which has a high alcohol concentration.
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No thats not what I implied. Whether you buy it there or bring in your own stuff whats the difference? I think you are smoking something maybe?:rolleyes:Hmm Highflyer?
 
Highflyer_GP said:
Yeah you can buy beer inside the stadium, but you're not allowed to bring in any of your own stuff, which is what he kind of implied. You certainly wouldn't be allowed to consume any spirit stuff which has a high alcohol concentration.
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don't forget about the vodka filled oranges :)
 
Rex Regis said:
ok before this topic swings back to politics, The main stadium is probably going to be Soccer City and considering its location, how safe will this be to tourists ?
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Soccer city is right next door to the Nazrec Expo which hosts the easter show, Auto Africa etc. Idon't think that location is any different to Ellis Park or Loftus for example.
The advantage it has over the other venues is obviously stadium size, open space for parking, easy access routes (N1, M1, N12) and of course the fact that it is SAFA's headquarters.
 
These were some of the problems less than a year before the German World Cup in 2006

The World Cup promises excitement beyond comparison but due to the scope of the event, problems are inevitable. The organizing committee has admitted this but still believes that there will be hitches next summer.

"We have problems, that's right. There are still questions that must be clarified," OK president Franz Beckenbauer said in the run up to the World Cup draw in Leipzig on Friday. The problems are threefold: structural problems at stadiums, the ticket sales process and security questions.

Ticket sales criticism not receding

One of the major points of criticism by fans and consumer groups was the printing of names on tickets to prevent the omnipresent ticket-scalping market that appears at the World Cup. Schmidt said the OK would not abandon this plan despite Blatter questioning the practice, saying at the same time the German organizers were complicating the scheme by trying to be too perfect.


Stadiums posing difficulties

When Germany won the bid to host the World Cup less than five years ago, a massive effort was made to build new and refurbish older arenas. At a few stadiums however, structural problems have developed that have led to game cancellations or less than optimal playing conditions.

Just last week, a match between Kaiserslautern and Frankfurt was postponed due to cracks in the roof at Fritz Walter* Stadium, a facility that had undergone thorough upgrades for the World Cup. Frankfurt got a new stadium with a modern retractable roof that has stuck at times and then funnels plumes of water onto the pitch when it rains. It happened once in a match against Schalke, making the field almost unplayable.
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With an event of this magnitude, there will be problems, but we will pull it off, for anyone living in this country to wish it to be a failure is truly incomprehensible, then maybe you should listen to Minister Nqakula, as you dont' deserve the privilege of living in this country
Deutsche-Welle 09/12/2005
 
xtermin8or said:
With an event of this magnitude, there will be problems, but we will pull it off, for anyone living in this country to wish it to be a failure is truly incomprehensible, then maybe you should listen to Minister Nqakula, as you dont' deserve the privilege of living in this country
Deutsche-Welle 09/12/2005
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Personally, I also think that it would be a massive embarassment if SA lost the world cup, but there is a precedent set in that Columbia lost the WC because of crime.

As for minister nKUKula, isn't he the same guy that muzzled the FNB anti crime campaign.

By the way, exterminator, you seemed to be at a loss for words on the FNB thread. You are so weak.
 
My personal opinion of Minister Nqakula is that he is incompetent... Maybe even more so than Ivy and Manto (and thats a damn achievement and two halves).... He should be fired and an intelligent person needs to be put in his place.

As for whether the stadiums can be completed in that time, I have a feeling all the stops will be pulled out and they will be completed, but I wouldn't trust the construction to be really welldone or to be long lasting...
 
IamCanadian said:
Personally, I also think that it would be a massive embarassment if SA lost the world cup, but there is a precedent set in that Columbia lost the WC because of crime.
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Which world cup did they have taken away from them?
 
GavinMannion said:
Damn I stumbled back into this thread.

In regard to Soccer City yes it is where the Finals will be and in regard to tourist safety I have been there a few times for games and never seen any problems. The police presence around normal games is good around international games it will be brilliant.

Tourists are not going to be mugged/raped/attacked around the stadiums. The amount of police and private security will make sure of that.
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Agreed. Tourists will be very well protected - but why can't we as citizens expect the same right now?
 
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