Fire&Ice or Mind&Fire? - Mage stuff

[w1z4rd]

So I want to try out fire spec... seen as its doing so well in ICC, and I am not sure which Fire spec to go with. Should I go with points in my frost tree or points in my arcane tree to compliment the fire?

Right now I am looking at these two builds:
Fire+ Arcane: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#of0Vcu0cZ0Ec0RhIhVubhct

Fire+Frost: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#oZfVcbRhIhVubhctbIccoc

I like the Arcane because it gives me FM but I really like Icy Veins as well....

What do you suggest?

 

[TofuMofu]

Go for the 20-51-0 spec.

It's what I use as my main spec in ICC and it's the best Fire spec at the moment.

Not sure if it's 100% the same as mine, bit lazy to check

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blade's+Edge&cn=Valgàrd <-- My armoury

 

[w1z4rd]

Shot thanks. Yay, I was hoping for some arcane There was an armory error for your char.

Also... what kinda spell rotations would I do with this Good macros to use?

 

[TofuMofu]

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blade's+Edge&cn=Valgàrd

Try this one?

If not, just take out my name and copy this in Valgàrd. I hate the à, but my name was taken on this server

Rotation is easy:

Open with Scorch and Living Bomb
Spam Fireball till Hot Streak procs and let lose the kraken! (Or Pyro)
Also, remember to keep Scorch and Living Bomb up as much as possible

Only macro's I use are to cancel spel cast and cast Ice Block (emergencies) and to pop all CD's at the same time (Trinkets, Combustion).

 

[w1z4rd]

Checked our your wow armory... great kit.

I need to get the spell rotation right... like how often to I cast living bomb. Just tested my dps now and its dropped from 5500 on a training dummy to 2600 Im so doing this wrong.

Im thinking perhaps my gear does not have enough crit now or something, because I dressed for arcane... ganna take a lot of learning, thanks for the advice.

 

[TofuMofu]

Ok big difference between Arcane and Fire is, Fire builds up DPS where Arcane bursts.

Install Scorchio so you can monitor your Living Bombs and Scorch debuffs on the boss and it also helps with notifying you about Hot Streak. Just set a sound effect on the Hot Streak so you won't miss it. Mine is a really loud gong sound

Fire has better overall DPS over Arcane. Just remember to stack Crit instead of haste (but don't gem crit, get it in gear and enchants).

You should have around 45+ % crit on Fire self buffed.

Oh and check your Glyphs as well