Five trapped miners presumed dead as rescue efforts continue

Five trapped miners presumed dead as rescue efforts continue

The five workers trapped at Ekapa Mines are now presumed dead, though rescue efforts are still ongoing.

 

[Hemi300c]

And the mine is closing down.

Sad this.

 

[Jam Sandwich]

Thats really kak. I did a couple of years one a mine and was always thankful when I got to the surface safely after my shift.
Mining really is a hostile and unforgiving environment. When things go wrong you are often pretty much done for.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

Thats really kak. I did a couple of years one a mine and was always thankful when I got to the surface safely after my shift.
Mining really is a hostile and unforgiving environment. When things go wrong you are often pretty much done for.

interesting

how is it it hasn't been more automated? I mean there is still flesh and blood humans doing all the dirty dangerous work, when many other industries have adopted machines,

or is it people fear the job losses, and its kept around as no machine can replicate a human being yet.

 

[Jam Sandwich]

interesting

how is it it hasn't been more automated? I mean there is still flesh and blood humans doing all the dirty dangerous work, when many other industries have adopted machines,

or is it people fear the job losses, and its kept around as no machine can replicate a human being yet.

I was on the mines in the mid 90's so I don't really know about today. Back then I suppose labour was cheap and easily replaceable.
These days I imagine its more about jobs? And no matter what I think mines still need a human element underground?

 

[Lupus]

interesting

how is it it hasn't been more automated? I mean there is still flesh and blood humans doing all the dirty dangerous work, when many other industries have adopted machines,

or is it people fear the job losses, and its kept around as no machine can replicate a human being yet.

Cause strangely enough humans are still better at adaptability, complex planning and judgement generally. Machines would require a lot of sensors to try come close to humans. Plus could you imagine machines just plowing through things underground they shouldn't?

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

I was on the mines in the mid 90's so I don't really know about today. Back then I suppose labour was cheap and easily replaceable.
These days I imagine its more about jobs? And no matter what I think mines still need a human element underground?

of course things have changed, but with the rise of automation and machines that have gotten better and better,
and mines that go deeper and deeper, and the risk involved, Id have thought it be automated a lot quicker.

I mean there is so much money to be made from underground mining, and from having workers control machines from the surface completely unmanned.

I mean think about Deep sea cable laying or oil rig installations, that's been completely automated,
how hard is it to adapt that technology for underground mines.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

Cause strangely enough humans are still better at adaptability, complex planning and judgement generally. Machines would require a lot of sensors to try come close to humans. Plus could you imagine machines just plowing through things underground they shouldn't?

sure but then you need safe rooms, and water and food and oxygen and cooling and all the rest of it,
whereas you could operate a machine from the surface in complete safety.

 

[Lupus]

sure but then you need safe rooms, and water and food and oxygen and cooling and all the rest of it,
whereas you could operate a machine from the surface in complete safety.

Which will cost a lot more, plus way more complex and some way to control the machine 3km underground

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

Which will cost a lot more, plus way more complex and some way to control the machine 3km underground

all been done before, even the cost aspect, deep sea ROV's cost almost as much, can be controlled from almost the same distance and are just as capable.

essentially build a underground version of that,

 

[Lupus]

all been done before, even the cost aspect, deep sea ROV's cost almost as much, can be controlled from almost the same distance and are just as capable.

essentially build a underground version of that,

Ooook... Not everything can and should be automated

 

[ToxicBunny]

all been done before, even the cost aspect, deep sea ROV's cost almost as much, can be controlled from almost the same distance and are just as capable.

essentially build a underground version of that,

Deep sea ROVs aren't part of a corporate endeavour that has to be cost efficient, effective and still be profitable.