Frigate is awesome

[DrJohnZoidberg]

I must try this out sometime. I've been using Unifi Protect, but it has bugs with some basic things that Unifi has just ignored for more than 6 months, plus their face detection is absolutely useless to a point where it's just better to turn it off completely.

 

[Syphonx]

I'm amazed at how easy state classification is to use! Had the reed switch on my garage door die yesterday and didn't feel like getting ladders out etc so thought I'd try use the garage camera to detect open/closed state. Within 10 minutes I had a working sensor in HA detecting garage door status! Now I'm trying to invent other things I could use this for

Just make sure you test at night as well, needs training in different conditions

 

[ebendl]

Do you need the Frigate subscription for this?

 

[JaseZA]

Do you need the Frigate subscription for this?

Nope, state classification is free. If you want the customised general models then you need Frigate+.

 

[getafix33]

Howdy

I have been running Frigate on an old 4th Gen i7 4790 and Coral TPU. Unfortunately I am stuck on an old verison of Ubuntu due to Coral compatibilty issues.
What GPU would you recommend to replace the Coral - I would like to stick with the i7 setup if possible. 8-10 Cameras

 

[Syphonx]

Howdy

I have been running Frigate on an old 4th Gen i7 4790 and Coral TPU. Unfortunately I am stuck on an old verison of Ubuntu due to Coral compatibilty issues.
What GPU would you recommend to replace the Coral - I would like to stick with the i7 setup if possible. 8-10 Cameras

My USB Coral works fine on latest Debian version

 

[getafix33]

My USB Coral works fine on latest Debian version

I am using the PCi version with an adpater. Do you think it will also work on the latest Debian? Were there any hacks that you had to do? Are you running on a standalone Frigate setup or are you using Proxmox etc?

 

[Syphonx]

I am using the PCi version with an adpater. Do you think it will also work on the latest Debian? Were there any hacks that you had to do? Are you running on a standalone Frigate setup or are you using Proxmox etc?

No hacks. I might have had to install some drivers or package for it but I don't remember any struggle. My Frigate is in a docker container and I pass the USB into it.

 

[BLG]

Hey guys, so i was rather disappointed with GeeWiz last week - I ordered 2x Reolink 810a's (4K) that showed on the site as "in-stock with supplier" was told 3 days later sorry supplier doesn't have but can give you the 510a's (2K camera's I think it is?) I been looking into the whole Frigate thing and yes unfortunately am not going to be able to source a Coral TPU by the looks of it - will a standard i7, 16GB ram HP laptop be fine for these two camera's with some basic AI and Home assistant integration? (I'll handle storage via an old HP N54L using TrueNAS or something for the recordings)

 

[gu3st]

Hey guys, so i was rather disappointed with GeeWiz last week - I ordered 2x Reolink 810a's (4K) that showed on the site as "in-stock with supplier" was told 3 days later sorry supplier doesn't have but can give you the 510a's (2K camera's I think it is?) I been looking into the whole Frigate thing and yes unfortunately am not going to be able to source a Coral TPU by the looks of it - will a standard i7, 16GB ram HP laptop be fine for these two camera's with some basic AI and Home assistant integration? (I'll handle storage via an old HP N54L using TrueNAS or something for the recordings)

It depends how old your i7 is - but there have been a lot of advancements in Frigate such that a Coral TPU is not actually the recommended hardware anymore. OpenVINO runs on most reasonably modern Intel CPUs and is very efficient, and this is the recommended hardware these days.

Check the Frigate documentation to be sure - but my gut is that if it's a reasonably modern Intel CPU then it should handle it fine. Only thing to check is the age/generation of the CPU and whether OpenVINO runs on laptop CPUs (I think it does but can't be sure as I've never looked it up - not running Frigate on a laptop).

 

[BLG]

It depends how old your i7 is - but there have been a lot of advancements in Frigate such that a Coral TPU is not actually the recommended hardware anymore. OpenVINO runs on most reasonably modern Intel CPUs and is very efficient, and this is the recommended hardware these days.

Check the Frigate documentation to be sure - but my gut is that if it's a reasonably modern Intel CPU then it should handle it fine. Only thing to check is the age/generation of the CPU and whether OpenVINO runs on laptop CPUs (I think it does but can't be sure as I've never looked it up - not running Frigate on a laptop).

Cool, thanks - I'll take a look once the replacement camera's arrive - they also half the quality which might in essence play in my favour for processing but not so lekker for loss of detail

 

[gu3st]

Cool, thanks - I'll take a look once the replacement camera's arrive - they also half the quality which might in essence play in my favour for processing but not so lekker for loss of detail

Again - if your CPU is reasonably modern with an integrated GPU (or if you have a separate GPU in the laptop?) then it should be no problem. Even 2 4K cameras is very lightweight these days with modern CPUs and integrated GPUs. But the Frigate documentation does give some examples of expected inference times with various CPUs - you could check out.

 

[BLG]

It depends how old your i7 is - but there have been a lot of advancements in Frigate such that a Coral TPU is not actually the recommended hardware anymore. OpenVINO runs on most reasonably modern Intel CPUs and is very efficient, and this is the recommended hardware these days.

Check the Frigate documentation to be sure - but my gut is that if it's a reasonably modern Intel CPU then it should handle it fine. Only thing to check is the age/generation of the CPU and whether OpenVINO runs on laptop CPUs (I think it does but can't be sure as I've never looked it up - not running Frigate on a laptop).

it's a Dell Latitude 5500 - not very recent of a model but it's sitting spare (I had Home assistant installed a Virtual machine and thats about it)

 

[gu3st]

I think you're good here. OpenVINO requires 6th gen or later Intel Core, and you have 8. So I would give it a bash and see how it performs

 

[BLG]

I think you're good here. OpenVINO requires 6th gen or later Intel Core, and you have 8. So I would give it a bash and see how it performs

ok so camera's installed on Friday and Saturday (only running 2x Reolink P320's) Two rebuilds later finally got it up and stable lastnight - monitoring it for today so far she is struggling I tried my level best to get OpenVino working to save some CPU cycles but it keeps breaking Frigate on my machine

 

[gu3st]

ok so camera's installed on Friday and Saturday (only running 2x Reolink P320's) Two rebuilds later finally got it up and stable lastnight - monitoring it for today so far she is struggling I tried my level best to get OpenVino working to save some CPU cycles but it keeps breaking Frigate on my machine View attachment 1907182

You will definitely struggle using CPU as your detector. You can DM me your config where you tried to get OpenVINO working and I can take a quick look - but your best bet is the github discussion forum for Frigate - the guys are very helpful.

 

[JaseZA]

Anyone using Frigate+? Considering it for the better models (And ANPR) but wondering if anyone has seen a worthwhile improvement?

 

[BLG]

Nah I reckon it's good enough as is, besides all our cats being detected as birds it's actually pretty awesome out the box

 

[gu3st]

Yes, I use Frigate+.

It sorted out a few false positives and false negatives I was getting (shadows and trees detecting as people, etc). It will be very case by case... if you don't currently have accuracy issues, then it won't be worth your while. But if you do get false negatives and positives, it will definitely sort that out.

I basically get zero false positives or negatives on people anymore. I do sometimes get babies on all fours being detected as dogs, and it can mix up animals sometimes - but I haven't trained that out. I focused the training on people detection, and it works great.

It's a once of fee - not a subscription - which is nice. You pay for a set of 12 model trainings (you can train as many pictures as you want per training). But you're not locked into paying it forever if it doesn't work for you. You also have permanent access to any models you train, even if you never buy another set of trainings ever again.

 

[BLG]

So long as you not getting dogs being detected as babies on all fours then Frigate+ sounds good ahahaa