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Bashley

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This is just a question regarding FTTh. It is a thought which is stuck in my mind.

If fiber to the home were to be a option for those how can afford it, a good example is the current offer from Vumatel. Basically R 499 p/m for a 50 Mbps line (http://vumatel.com/wp/) excluding the once off installation fee and a 24 month contract on the table.

So my question:
Considering whats happening at Telscum. Would most home owners opt for such a deal? And how difficult would it be to acquire such data or perform such a survey to justify the massive cost of providing fiber to the home.

I am personally sick of Telscum. The first chance I get I will jump ship. I have ADSL for obvious reasons.

Thanks for all the input and opinions, if any.
 
Hahaha. Not at all. Just considering what it would take to be a competitor. Seems very difficult though. Requires a investor with deep pockets etc.
 
what's a Surey ?
And hell yes I would if I could get 50mbps plus uncapped for R1000 or less a month
 
Paul Hjul said:
and a LOT of planning ....
which includes filled up white boards, tombs of paper, etc ....
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Yes. Most definitely a lot work and planning. But before all of that can happen, you need to know how many people are interested in a given neighborhood.
Anyway. Sounds like its near impossible if you don't have the proper people on board.
 
Free line rental for 4mbit? R499 for 50mbit? Nice!

Vumatel needs to roll out everywhere.
 
I also want FTTH in Cape Town :)

but i don't see anyone pushing that to CPT. (it's mostly only in JHB)
 
This would be good, if there were more capital investment. That way, telkom will be de-monopolised and finally get a competitor that is worthy of having our money.

Other than that, I see this more of a oh.. This is available to only 5 houses...

Back to the questions, who wouldn't want cheaper internet service and non-BEE customer service?
 
Ajan. The problem as you said is that they rollout to a community that's maybe 5 Houses (but more realistically it's prolly about 30houses in parkhurst that has access to FTTH).


They should rather roll it out to a major suburb all in one shot. Like they said it's free for 4mbit link (but you have to pay for data if you are going to use it) , but the users that want higher speeds must pay to "open up the pipe to 50mbit and 100mbit" and data.


I don't think it's about BEE or non-Bee. I would say, whatever gives you the internet connection is what counts :)
 
Napalm said:
Ajan. The problem as you said is that they rollout to a community that's maybe 5 Houses (but more realistically it's prolly about 30houses in parkhurst that has access to FTTH).
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Apparently its about 2100 homes in Parkhurst that will have access to the network, of which they need a 30% take up to make it feasible.

From what I have heard, Parkhurst is a testbed for Vumatel, if all goes smoothly there, they will look at other suburbs in the Metro areas around the country. I personally don't see them coming anywhere close to replacing Telkom in the next 10 years, however, if its fosters competition, I am all for it!
 
sydCPT said:
Apparently its about 2100 homes in Parkhurst that will have access to the network, of which they need a 30% take up to make it feasible.

From what I have heard, Parkhurst is a testbed for Vumatel, if all goes smoothly there, they will look at other suburbs in the Metro areas around the country. I personally don't see them coming anywhere close to replacing Telkom in the next 10 years, however, if its fosters competition, I am all for it!
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Well, I would say that on their own, yes, 10 years or more. But if there were more FTTH providers in the country then surely Telscum's monopoly will be knocked off its horse sooner rather than later.

Of course Vumatel requires a 24 month commitment from a household looking to have FTTH and I'm sure that the free 4 mbps does not count. But this understandable because how would they recoup the infrastructure investment.
 
Bashley said:
Well, I would say that on their own, yes, 10 years or more. But if there were more FTTH providers in the country then surely Telscum's monopoly will be knocked off its horse sooner rather than later.

Of course Vumatel requires a 24 month commitment from a household looking to have FTTH and I'm sure that the free 4 mbps does not count. But this understandable because how would they recoup the infrastructure investment.
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Even the 4Mbps users have to pay for the installation and their data. The biggest challenges these new ventures face are (obviously) finance and then obtaining permission from the metros to dig up roads and pavements, etc. and then maintaining the networks.

Once the big boys step in (Telkom, Vodacom, MTN, DSTV, etc.) then you'll see more action. Unfortunately, when this happens the smaller companies, eg. Vumatel, will disappear.
 
Bashley said:
Well, I would say that on their own, yes, 10 years or more. But if there were more FTTH providers in the country then surely Telscum's monopoly will be knocked off its horse sooner rather than later.

Of course Vumatel requires a 24 month commitment from a household looking to have FTTH and I'm sure that the free 4 mbps does not count. But this understandable because how would they recoup the infrastructure investment.
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Yeah, they are also going to make a month to month product available, in which case you will pay more (eg R100 per product) in return for the flexibility to cancel with a months notice. I think that alot of people who might not take a 2 year contract would be happy with a slightly higher price in return for peace of mind.
 
MickeyD said:
Even the 4Mbps users have to pay for the installation and their data. The biggest challenges these new ventures face are (obviously) finance and then obtaining permission from the metros to dig up roads and pavements, etc. and then maintaining the networks.

Once the big boys step in (Telkom, Vodacom, MTN, DSTV, etc.) then you'll see more action. Unfortunately, when this happens the smaller companies, eg. Vumatel, will disappear.
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One would hope that the big boys step up to the challenge (MTN, Vodacom and Neotel), however, so far they have not been interested in the home market. As soon as a small player makes an attempt, all the big guys release a bunch of media statements and promise the world - but never delivery. Maybe this time round they will be forced to make an effort, and we as consumers will benefit.

I personally hope Vumatel flourishes, although it is a David vs Goliath situation, one can always dream! As soon as I have an alternative to Telkom I will jump ship that moment, I hate few companies more than Telkom, it will be great if we have an alternative at some point in the future, although I am not holding my breath just yet
 
i called some ISP's and FTTH is not cheap. One of them replied to me saying it's about R20,000 installation cost for Fibre to my home (that's only an estimate, it can be R25,000). Thats what they told me. Then R5000 per month.

ISP that also sells ADSL who do FTTH (on the above)
 
I see Vumatel has gained a little marketing from this article. And hell yeah who wouldn't want FTTH. When you start seeing the speeds one can get on fibre you then quickly understand why Vumatel is offering free rental on the 4Mbps
 
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