Future of Intel, AMD vs Apple M1

[RedViking]

Apple seems to have made a leap, and a vey bold move, in technology with the new M1, M1 Max, M1 Pro chips. This does come at quite a steep price, some would argue very completive and worth it.

Do you think Intel (or AMD?) will be able to learn from this and also make a leap forward?

How soon would you guess such a move will be seen from Intel (or AMD) or can we expect to wait a couple of years.

What are some of the things that will hold back Intel (or AMD) , assuming they have the potential to achieve this as well.

 

[bwana]

This does come at quite a steep price, some would argue very completive and worth it.

Apple's M1 chip laptops were cheaper than their Intel equivalent models.

 

[RedViking]

Apple's M1 chip laptops were cheaper than their Intel equivalent models.

Yeah the base M1 are very well priced, specially considering a pandemic and world wide shortage on tech.

 

[RedViking]

Are we going to see Intel, AMD also stepping up the game and face the M1 Max/Pro's?

or not soon?

 

[RedViking]

Not bad for an APU (M1 Max) at 3000$.

Intel and AMD gonna have to work hard to get back in the game?

 

[Barbarian Conan]

Someone (I think Linus?) said that the M1 Apples are like consoles. The M1 package includes the memory. They include much more on the package than just the CPU, GPU and L1,2 and 3.

They are also RISC based and not x86.

Intel has "learned" (they most likely started the design long before the M1 was released) in the sense that they also have performance and efficiency cores in AlderLake.

I don't think the PC market will go the route of integrated memory soon or ever, and I don't see much of a point of going efficiency cores on a desktop. AMD could do it on a laptop, but we'll have to wait and see how battery life compares between AlderLake and Ryzen mobile processors when AL is released.

As for RISC... that depends on Microsoft more than on the CPU makers. Windows can run on ARM I think, but nowhere near as well as Apple can. I don't think they will get that sorted out any time soon.

I think neither AMD nor Intel will beat Apple on battery life any time soon, if ever again. Not while comparing x86 vs RISC/ARM.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Odds are Intel and AMD both have some tricks up their sleeves, they sort of settled into a comfort zone where they only need to worry about each other, no need to blow the lights out with every new generation of chips

Is Apple gonna let the M1 ship in anything other than Mac / Apple hardware? If not Intel / AMD will continue as-is, they're not competing in that space at all anyway.

 

[Barbarian Conan]

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Not bad for an APU (M1 Max) at 3000$.

Intel and AMD gonna have to work hard to get back in the game?

Thats a 3 generations old Intel CPU they are comparing against though.
Current Intel offerings won't beat it, but it won't lose that badly. Especially on the GPU side. AMD should fare even better, although still losing to the M1 Max.

 

[RedViking]

Thats a 3 generations old Intel CPU they are comparing against though.
Current Intel offerings won't beat it, but it won't lose that badly. Especially on the GPU side. AMD should fare even better, although still losing to the M1 Max.

It's probably because it was (is) almost impossible to get a the latest tech from AMD or Intel since the pandemic and lockdowns.

 

[backstreetboy]

Lol benchmarks are useless it's all about real world usage.

 

[RedViking]

Lol benchmarks are useless it's all about real world usage.

True. But it is still pretty impressive.