Gaming mouse vs Regular mouse

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Hey guys I'd just like to know if there's any difference in using a gaming mouse compared to a regular mouse (cheap genius/microsoft mouse etc.)

Is there a difference when gaming? (is the experience just different or does it improve your playing?)

When not gaming is there a difference in the two?

What do all those features listed with gaming mice mean... in practical terms? For example:

Features
* Gaming Grade Wireless Technology
* Dual Mode Wired/Wireless Functionality
* Razer Synapse™ On-board Memory
* Seven independently programmable Hyperesponse™ buttons
* 5600DPI Razer Precision™ 3.5G Laser sensor
* 1000Hz Ultrapolling™ / 1ms response rate
* Up to 200 inches per second*/ 50g acceleration
* Approximate size: 128mm x 70mm x 42.5mm
* Battery Life: 14hrs (continuous gaming); 72 hours (normal gaming usage) *Depends on surface used
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Lastly (and the reason i posted instead of just searching through old threads), which mouse would you recommend... Goldilocks style; not too cheap, not too expensive, just the features you need to make a difference etc.

Thanks!
 
seriously there is no comparison vs gaming mouse X and just using an "normal" mouse.

first need to ask yourself, what are you going to use it for and what do you need :
1) fps / rts/ mmo ?
2) programmable buttons ?
3) how do you grip the mouse, claw / fit as whole in your hand ?
4) wireless ?
5) wired ?

also need to select a proper mouse mat for it. for example what type of feedback are you looking for :

1) glide
2) smooth
3) bit of a feedback
4) wrist rest
5) large, small...

and overall. budget ?
 
Basically the response time of a Gaming mouse or keyboard is much, much faster. And can be customised.

A standard mouse would operate at under a 1000 DPI, usually between 400-700 DPI. Where a gaming mouse is usually adjustable between DPI settings ranging from low 700 DPI to a very high +3200 DPI.

So when using a gaming mouse, you have the option to customise it to your liking. And be more competitive in online gaming.
 
The cheapest mouse that I know of that can be used for FPS is the Microsoft Wheel Mouse optical (6000fps) which retails for about R120, but its quite an issue to get hold of one though.

For RTS games you really need a moues with at least 4 buttons and it could also help for FPS to have that many.

I've bought a Logitech MX500 mouse like 8 years ago and I'm still using it (although I have to add that I've already replaced some of its buttons and its cable). It was definitely the best decision that I've made to buy that mouse at that time!

Just take note that the laser mice have quite high DPI values, but that doesn't mean that they can be used for gaming!
 
Pr⊕phet said:
seriously there is no comparison vs gaming mouse X and just using an "normal" mouse.

first need to ask yourself, what are you going to use it for and what do you need :
1) fps / rts/ mmo ?
2) programmable buttons ?
3) how do you grip the mouse, claw / fit as whole in your hand ?
4) wireless ?
5) wired ?

also need to select a proper mouse mat for it. for example what type of feedback are you looking for :

1) glide
2) smooth
3) bit of a feedback
4) wrist rest
5) large, small...

and overall. budget ?
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1) fps (mostly)
2) not sure... necessary for fps?
3) whole hand
5)Wired... dont like batteries

for your other batch of questions im not really sure since i haven't experienced a really smooth mouse etc. Budget... around half a grand but I'd like to see a couple of options disregarding price as I might get one secondhand or be able to get a more expensive mouse for slightly cheaper.

CrAzYLeGs69 said:
Basically the response time of a Gaming mouse or keyboard is much, much faster. And can be customised.

A standard mouse would operate at under a 1000 DPI, usually between 400-700 DPI. Where a gaming mouse is usually adjustable between DPI settings ranging from low 700 DPI to a very high +3200 DPI.

So when using a gaming mouse, you have the option to customise it to your liking. And be more competitive in online gaming.
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what exactly dyu mean by faster... when i move my mouse my cursor moves, so are you saying it moves further or its kind of more precise. Is the clicking faster? as I've noticed when playing fps's my mouse takes a while to respond after I've clicked... you cant just give it a quick flick click its gotta be firm in a way.
 
Pada said:
The cheapest mouse that I know of that can be used for FPS is the Microsoft Wheel Mouse optical (6000fps) which retails for about R120, but its quite an issue to get hold of one though.

For RTS games you really need a moues with at least 4 buttons and it could also help for FPS to have that many.
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I usually play story driven first person shooters (nothing competitive like COD or CS) so would more buttons and programmable buttons be beneficial?

Pada said:
I've bought a Logitech MX500 mouse like 8 years ago and I'm still using it (although I have to add that I've already replaced some of its buttons and its cable). It was definitely the best decision that I've made to buy that mouse at that time!

Just take note that the laser mice have quite high DPI values, but that doesn't mean that they can be used for gaming!
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why's that?
 
well i've so far used the razer brand, but are looking at steel series and roccat. as for entry using the razer i went to the set used their mouse and mat selectors got this (note, this is entry level and not pro league or related)

Razer Lachesis
http://www.zapsonline.com/product.php?id_product=44126

Razer Sphex Mouse Sports
http://www.zapsonline.com/product.php?id_product=33185

...there is of course other makes out there and getting a mouse and matt is well pretty much up to preference as well.
 
Pr⊕phet said:
well i've so far used the razer brand, but are looking at steel series and roccat. as for entry using the razer i went to the set used their mouse and mat selectors got this (note, this is entry level and not pro league or related)

Razer Lachesis
http://www.zapsonline.com/product.php?id_product=44126

Razer Sphex Mouse Sports
http://www.zapsonline.com/product.php?id_product=33185

...there is of course other makes out there and getting a mouse and matt is well pretty much up to preference as well.
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importance of mousepad, does it really make or break the performance when compared to a wooden table top. Not cheaping out here but I study on my desk so I gotta push everything aside i therefore enjoy having as little on my desk as possible.
 
reedOsama said:
importance of mousepad, does it really make or break the performance when compared to a wooden table top. Not cheaping out here but I study on my desk so I gotta push everything aside i therefore enjoy having as little on my desk as possible.
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i would say it degrades your experience if you don't have one. i suppose on the other side if you keep the desk clean at least it rules out the problem of you mouse getting dirty underneath. however for example, it glides better on the matt...
 
Pr⊕phet said:
i would say it degrades your experience if you don't have one. i suppose on the other side if you keep the desk clean at least it rules out the problem of you mouse getting dirty underneath. however for example, it glides better on the matt...
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I also normally move the mouse over a greater area then the matt has to offer. Is this due to my current cheapo mouse being terrible?
 
Pada said:
The cheapest mouse that I know of that can be used for FPS is the Microsoft Wheel Mouse optical (6000fps) which retails for about R120, but its quite an issue to get hold of one though.

For RTS games you really need a moues with at least 4 buttons and it could also help for FPS to have that many.

I've bought a Logitech MX500 mouse like 8 years ago and I'm still using it (although I have to add that I've already replaced some of its buttons and its cable). It was definitely the best decision that I've made to buy that mouse at that time!

Just take note that the laser mice have quite high DPI values, but that doesn't mean that they can be used for gaming!
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Best mouse ever made :)
 
reedOsama said:
I also normally move the mouse over a greater area then the matt has to offer. Is this due to my current cheapo mouse being terrible?
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lol, well i would venture at 3500dpi for starters you would have to erm decrease your movements :D
 
Pr⊕phet said:
lol, well i would venture at 3500dpi for starters you would have to erm decrease your movements :D
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awesome... will the transition take me a while

and this is all obviously beneficial for gaming but for everyday stuff doesn't it get annoying... i suppose?
 
reedOsama said:
awesome... will the transition take me a while

and this is all obviously beneficial for gaming but for everyday stuff doesn't it get annoying... i suppose?
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might want to go with the "slow" speeds first and work it up to where you feel it meets your requirement of precision :)
 
reedOsama said:
mx518 any good... and why the hell does it have dimples?
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Yup, the MX518 is a decent gaming mouse. If you have one already, you really don't need to get another gaming mouse!

Wrt your previous question: a high DPI simply allow the mouse to be more sensitive, but it won't imply that it would be able to track fast as well.
Like I recently bought a VERY VERY cheap (R74) Logitech RX1000 laser mouse which has a 1000dpi sensor, compared to my MX500 which has an 800dpi sensor.
The RX1000 works fine for office use and you can play some FPS games if you have a nice surface and a very high sensitivity. However, like I like to use a gaming mouse pad and low sensitivities and then that mouse completely lost track, where as I've never seen that happening to my old MX500 :D
 
DAMN! I had a whole lengthy reply... but hit backspace and it's all gone.

Basically the summary is: Gaming mice are designed to have lower overall latencies in the mouse in sensing movement. The lower the latency, the more easily and accurately your brain can perform hand-brain-eye-brain-hand coordination.

Higher latencies is like having trying to control a puppet but with rubber bands instead of strings. The stiffer the rubber band the less delay from control to movement and the better your control over it, the more flexible the rubber band the more delays there are and the less control you would have over it.

There are several factors that affect the latencies but they'd need an entire article to explain properly.
 
Pada said:
Yup, the MX518 is a decent gaming mouse. If you have one already, you really don't need to get another gaming mouse!

Wrt your previous question: a high DPI simply allow the mouse to be more sensitive, but it won't imply that it would be able to track fast as well.
Like I recently bought a VERY VERY cheap (R74) Logitech RX1000 laser mouse which has a 1000dpi sensor, compared to my MX500 which has an 800dpi sensor.
The RX1000 works fine for office use and you can play some FPS games if you have a nice surface and a very high sensitivity. However, like I like to use a gaming mouse pad and low sensitivities and then that mouse completely lost track, where as I've never seen that happening to my old MX500 :D
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Yes there are two factors here: One is sensitivity (DPI) the other is Capture rate (Response time)
A higher DPI allows resolving smaller movements and finer distance measurements.
Faster Response is well faster and less latencies. This is what some call "UltraPolling"....
 
EffKay said:
DAMN! I had a whole lengthy reply... but hit backspace and it's all gone.

Basically the summary is: Gaming mice are designed to have lower overall latencies in the mouse in sensing movement. The lower the latency, the more easily and accurately your brain can perform hand-brain-eye-brain-hand coordination.

Higher latencies is like having trying to control a puppet but with rubber bands instead of strings. The stiffer the rubber band the less delay from control to movement and the better your control over it, the more flexible the rubber band the more delays there are and the less control you would have over it.

There are several factors that affect the latencies but they'd need an entire article to explain properly.
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hehe hate when that happens

so lower latency = good

Pyro said:
I've had a MX518 for years and love it!

The greyish model looks like it has dimples, but it's actually smooth. The colour just provides that illusion.

I hated the Mx1000.

Mostly you don't NEED a gaming mouse to game.
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wow, it fooled me this whole time:erm:

and although you don't need a gaming mouse would you rather do with one then without... and say you go lan or are just playing dyu feel disadvantaged without your mouse?
 
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