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wHiTe*LiGhTnInG

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Whats local gaming like on a neotel connection or even international. Does anybody play games on a neotel connection, and what are your pings?
 
Neotel urgently needs to roll out XDSL and FTTX(H), at least if they want me as a customer. Low latency is one of the many important factors that people consider when opting for broadband. I'd say the most important factors are Speed, Usage cap, Latency and stability - that is, indefinite uptime as well as zero packet loss.

For the majority of users, wireless does the trick just fine.. most usage, especially 'browsing and checking e-mail', aren't latency-critical - hence the success of 3G-related and WiMAX; but the problem is that there are so many wireless providers in competition already for that market share, when there's another sector of the market that needs to be served (not everybody JUST browses, downloads, or checks e-mail.) - granted smaller, but there: the low-latency market. Right now Telkom dominates this market with ADSL, but there's an urgent need for competition, especially with the current problem of cable theft that's challenging Telkom. NOWS THE TIME TO STEP IN, Not in 2 years time or 'fibre in 2015' and all these long-shot 'predictions' that will probably (pfft... definitely even, as always) be extended another 5 years when that time comes anyway.

If wireless keeps expanding like it is now, not only is internet in a few short years time going to be hell because of the poor contention ratios at the highsites, but WISPS are going to be noising the spectrum, challenging each other and blasting away with amps (it's already reality, and the trend's only worsening), and I can't say I'd like to live in a place where all around me are amplified microwaves on every possible radio frequency.
 
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wHiTe*LiGhTnInG said:
and i thought neotel was to be the shizz nizz....i suppose i was wrong.
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Doesnt happen overnight. Neotel is 'the shizz nizz' for many people already, and is pretty much the only company with the POTENTIAL to become 'the shizz nizz' for the rest of the market in time, assuming things advance ideally (at least, according to expectations based upon what's been said so far). Let's wait and see ;)
 
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yeah the beez neez.......i suppose for business its ok,, but i'm into online gaming, so need something fast
 
wHiTe*LiGhTnInG said:
yeah the beez neez.......i suppose for business its ok,, but i'm into online gaming, so need something fast
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wake me when neotel can offer wired, constant ping less than 200ms to overseas game servers - is unshaped ADSL already the physical limit?
 
Physical limit? Telkom???

wmaker said:
+1

wake me when neotel can offer wired, constant ping less than 200ms to overseas game servers - is unshaped ADSL already the physical limit?
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No, unshaped is not the physical limit...

Telkom, in their infinite wisdom, and their "network that makes business work" slogan seems to be against letting the beauty networking work as it's supposed to.

Once the local loop is unbundled, latency to international servers will drop substantially, and with the new undersea cables it'll be even better. (and cheaper, almost forgot)
 
wmaker said:
+1

wake me when neotel can offer wired, constant ping less than 200ms to overseas game servers - is unshaped ADSL already the physical limit?
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It is the physical limit, yes:

From SAIX and IS core networks, the lowest i've ever seen round-trip latency to international are as follows:
JHB -> UK: 160ms
CPT -> UK: 150ms

Lower pings can be accomplished to Hong Kong, somewhere around 110ms if im not mistaken.
Pings to the USA are higher, at around 250ms.

Those are the main peering points, you wont get lower international ping anywhere else from SA using SAIX/IS/Verizon networks. I havent tested Neotel, but with their wireless first-hop latency they aren't even worth talking about in this context...

You cant get any lower than that with the current technology and infrastructure we have, and chances are you wont even get as low as that. DSL adds at least 7-10ms first hop from you to exchange, then on top of that you're probably being shaped or whatever. Even on SAIX unshaped I get around 200ms which is higher than 180ms which I get on my verizon unshaped account.
 
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