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I reckon most the the "manly chest thumping" happens anywhere you bring a group of males together. Women are generally just not subjected to this behavior as it mostly happens out of earshot. Forums lend an air of anonymity as well and I think that exacerbates the situation.

What guys say on these forums is pretty light compared to what I've heard during social gatherings. I don't think this behavior will ever change as it's an inherent part of male sociology. Women honestly cannot expect men to become women as humans evolve. That would defeat the purpose of having men.

Just my 2c anyway. I don't condone the belittling of women in any way but I think anyone can be offended by anyone. I heard some women on the radio this morning moaning about how Zulu culture offends her. I'm pretty sure she offends them in some way. None of us are the same but we have to live together as a part of society. The least we can do is be civil to one another.
 
Nocturnity said:
New thread branched from: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=2007859&postcount=39

Let the discussion continue!

I reckon most the the "manly chest thumping" happens anywhere you bring a group of males together. Women are generally just not subjected to this behavior as it mostly happens out of earshot. Forums lend an air of anonymity as well and I think that exacerbates the situation.

What guys say on these forums is pretty light compared to what I've heard during social gatherings. I don't think this behavior will ever change as it's an inherent part of male sociology. Women honestly cannot expect men to become women as humans evolve. That would defeat the purpose of having men.

Just my 2c anyway. I don't condone the belittling of women in any way but I think anyone can be offended by anyone. I heard some women on the radio this morning moaning about how Zulu culture offends her. I'm pretty sure she offends them in some way. None of us are the same but we have to live together as a part of society. The least we can do is be civil to one another.
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Have you ever wished that you could be a fly on the wall at a gathering of women? I promise you, the things you will hear there will make any chauvinistic behavior from males look like a kindergarten tea party.
 
Look this is not a dating site, here we are all just Nerds/geeks :p

There is no women / men we are all its.

Also most men on the intrawebs are trying to make themselves look better because they think that one of you ladies will actually date one of them.... Sad I know, but true.
 
Devill said:
1. Look this is not a dating site, here we are all just Nerds/geeks :p

There is no women / men we are all its.

2. Also most men on the intrawebs are trying to make themselves look better because they think that one of you ladies will actually date one of them.... Sad I know, but true.
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1. Please speak for yourself.

2. So true!


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Nocturnity said:
I reckon most the the "manly chest thumping" happens anywhere you bring a group of males together. Women are generally just not subjected to this behavior as it mostly happens out of earshot. Forums lend an air of anonymity as well and I think that exacerbates the situation.
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Probably true, and it does give us (me) an interesting insight into guys :)

Nocturnity said:
Women honestly cannot expect men to become women as humans evolve. That would defeat the purpose of having men.
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Of course not! And if this was a female dominated, interior decorating, cooking and baking type forum I wouldn't be here.

Nocturnity said:
Just my 2c anyway. I don't condone the belittling of women in any way but I think anyone can be offended by anyone. I heard some women on the radio this morning moaning about how Zulu culture offends her. I'm pretty sure she offends them in some way. None of us are the same but we have to live together as a part of society. The least we can do is be civil to one another.
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Yeah. I'm not offended by much on the forum, and generally I ignore a lot of stuff. But... some things need to be challenged, and some things cross the line. If it seems like I've been complaining a lot lately, it's partly because a lot of things have been crossing the line lately, and partly because I've reached the point where I feel I'm not just a visitor here - I'm as much a part of the community as everyone else, and I want to make sure the forum remains a good place to be.

I'm not saying guys can't be guys. I'm just saying, remember that you're not the only ones on the forum, so don't get too crude; and (whether on the forum or in real life) try to treat other people (primarily women) with a bit of respect. And if you cross the line, expect to be called on it ;)
 
That whole thread about Appelgate's masectomy started off wrongly. The sympathy about her breast-"loss" wasn't for her sake but rather for men's sake.

True, it is a tragedy for anyone to go through something like that ... and this is where my differentiation between a loss for a man(person) and mankind come in.

Men will sometimes make light of something that does not affect them peronally. It is solely for humour's sake. That does not mean that we don't have a deep-rooted sympathy for her problem. Like I said I too have lost a family member to breast cancer.

ALSO because men can make light of something more easily than women, does not mean that we will laugh in her face regarding this.

And like the OP stated, this is an anomymous forum and I say things here that I would never in a million years say outside.
 
Devill said:
Look this is not a dating site, here we are all just Nerds/geeks :p

There is no women / men we are all its.

Also most men on the intrawebs are trying to make themselves look better because they think that one of you ladies will actually date one of them.... Sad I know, but true.
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Actually i don't think to many men are looking to be hooked up on my adsl.co.za in all honesty, most of chat here because we are bored at work.

Men will be Men whether on a forum or out having beers, thats just how life is.
 
I find that usually when men give advice on the forum (maybe also in general) they intend it to be taken so it's not advice at all but rather an instruction or an order.

Lots of opinion is also given as advice and contradictions to that opinion usually cause a bit of a fuss. ...The three lines of info in your thread allow me to decide that I'm right you're wrong... is how I read many posts and replies.

Often though it's how the question is asked or original thread is posted that determines the response.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!
 
Picard said:
Men will sometimes make light of something that does not affect them peronally. It is solely for humour's sake. That does not mean that we don't have a deep-rooted sympathy for her problem. Like I said I too have lost a family member to breast cancer.

ALSO because men can make light of something more easily than women, does not mean that we will laugh in her face regarding this.

And like the OP stated, this is an anomymous forum and I say things here that I would never in a million years say outside.
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I agree with your first point wholeheartedly. We often use humor as a way out of an uncomfortable situation. I think it's mostly because we don't really know hoe to react.

As for the second part... I'm pretty much the same guy both on- and offline. I'm straight-forward and I don't really differentiate between race, religion or gender. If you speak to me, expect me to treat you as a person, not a stereotype. That does not mean I'm perfect and I don't stereotype people. It simply means I treat everyone the same. If I have something to say, I'll say it. There's a time and place for tact, of course, but I don't dance on eggshells around people. I have nothing to hide so I don't see the need for anonymity, which is why I'm a member of the Facebook group.
 
out of personal experience i would like to mention that there isn't necessarily alot of chest thumping where there is a gathering of guys, just your usual bragging and joking.

until you introduce a lady or two......
 
Jabberwocky said:
out of personal experience i would like to mention that there isn't necessarily alot of chest thumping where there is a gathering of guys, just your usual bragging and joking.

until you introduce a lady or two......
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you've been with two ladies..now who's bragging?

I dont get all this PC nonsense, a woman should be in either one of two places, and non of them are spelt "forum".
 
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