Geyserwise Tuya

Funny. I read the posts today… and just tried to turn on some plugs from HA and it failed. Went to smartlife and it worked. Is it the universe telling me something?
And - I do have geyserwala in my geyserwise. For no reason other than, I wanted to try it.
 
Our suggestion would be to use a Geyserwise unit with ESP Home. It has an amazing result. You can get there by replacing the Tuya chip with an ESP chip.

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The GeyserWise comes with the WBR3 Chip which is not yet listed as "Supported"

It may be possible to get it working as the generic RTL8720CF, but we haven't had any luck with this

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From what we understand though, as per this video, it seems you need to access pads on the back of the board to get it into flash mode
so you would need to remove the chip to flash it anyway.
 
SmartPad said:
The GeyserWise comes with the WBR3 Chip which is not yet listed as "Supported"

It may be possible to get it working as the generic RTL8720CF, but we haven't had any luck with this

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From what we understand though, as per this video, it seems you need to access pads on the back of the board to get it into flash mode
so you would need to remove the chip to flash it anyway.
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But why would this be necessary? Just use the straight up geserwise on Tuya as is.
 
Ok so yea i see the most recent replies here have been a few months ago so luckily not digging up the past - but what are people's current recommendations then, Geyserwise TSE Tuya or Geyserwala?

Current Setup :
-Still have an older Geyserwise unit (Satchwell) from 2008, so i have to replace the whole toetie regardless
-Unify ecosystem running in the house, one AP pretty much below the geyser
-running HA with some Tuya devices, albeit not fully on localtuya yet, for some reason still can't get that to be reliable

Goal :
-HA automations to maximize excess PV to control the element to be ready for everyone's shower in the 5-7pm window
 
TheRidDlerX said:
Ok so yea i see the most recent replies here have been a few months ago so luckily not digging up the past - but what are people's current recommendations then, Geyserwise TSE Tuya or Geyserwala?

Current Setup :
-Still have an older Geyserwise unit (Satchwell) from 2008, so i have to replace the whole toetie regardless
-Unify ecosystem running in the house, one AP pretty much below the geyser
-running HA with some Tuya devices, albeit not fully on localtuya yet, for some reason still can't get that to be reliable

Goal :
-HA automations to maximize excess PV to control the element to be ready for everyone's shower in the 5-7pm window
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I can’t speak to the geyser option. But try Tuya Local as oppose to Local Tuya. It’s rock solid
 
TheRidDlerX said:
Ok so yea i see the most recent replies here have been a few months ago so luckily not digging up the past - but what are people's current recommendations then, Geyserwise TSE Tuya or Geyserwala?

Current Setup :
-Still have an older Geyserwise unit (Satchwell) from 2008, so i have to replace the whole toetie regardless
-Unify ecosystem running in the house, one AP pretty much below the geyser
-running HA with some Tuya devices, albeit not fully on localtuya yet, for some reason still can't get that to be reliable

Goal :
-HA automations to maximize excess PV to control the element to be ready for everyone's shower in the 5-7pm window
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ESPHome+Geyserwise Smart Thermostat

I wanted to smarten up my geyser, because while I have solar panels and a battery, eventually the battery is full, and the sun is still shining, leaving energy going to waste. I figured that since I also have an electric geyser, I could use excess energy to heat water, which would otherwise need...
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This is what I am doing. Working a treat for two years now.
 
Ok update - about to finally pull the trigger on purchasing some upgrades and after going through all the responses and recommendations I've come to this :

a) upgrade existing Satchwell Geyserwise unit to a new TSE1, non Tuya (wonder if i should ask for a 20m comms cable just in case, 5m seems a bit short)
b) Replace control board with Geyserwala (simply because i honestly dont want to risk going through the chip replacement process and then its bust
c) Replace element with 2kW PTC

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d) install the above, alongside a thermostatic temper valve on the geyser output to limit it to 55
e) previous assessments have mentioned there's no pressure control valve on the geyser hence why I'm getting the knocking sound of the pipes when the washing machine/dishwasher kicks in. Doesn't really make sense since its the cold water line that seem to cause it, but hey

I gotta ask though, what's the deal with the pump? I honestly dont think I have one. Do i need one? What does it do? I see its shown on most pictures of the Geyserwala/wise dashboards
 
TheRidDlerX said:
Ok update - about to finally pull the trigger on purchasing some upgrades and after going through all the responses and recommendations I've come to this :

a) upgrade existing Satchwell Geyserwise unit to a new TSE1, non Tuya (wonder if i should ask for a 20m comms cable just in case, 5m seems a bit short)
b) Replace control board with Geyserwala (simply because i honestly dont want to risk going through the chip replacement process and then its bust
c) Replace element with 2kW PTC

Installer to
d) install the above, alongside a thermostatic temper valve on the geyser output to limit it to 55
e) previous assessments have mentioned there's no pressure control valve on the geyser hence why I'm getting the knocking sound of the pipes when the washing machine/dishwasher kicks in. Doesn't really make sense since its the cold water line that seem to cause it, but hey

I gotta ask though, what's the deal with the pump? I honestly dont think I have one. Do i need one? What does it do? I see its shown on most pictures of the Geyserwala/wise dashboards
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The pump is if you have a solar geyser with a pump to circulate water to the ev tubes.
however the geyser wise (and i assume the geyser wala) uses the same pump icon for other stuff , on the TSE it is used for the PTC element control so you might need to find out how to activate this and what it does
 
isie said:
The pump is if you have a solar geyser with a pump to circulate water to the ev tubes.
however the geyser wise (and i assume the geyser wala) uses the same pump icon for other stuff , on the TSE it is used for the PTC element control so you might need to find out how to activate this and what it does
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Thanks yea to my best knowledge both my solar on top of the roof and the kwikot inside the roof is all mainly gravity feeds so that will most likely end up being unused if im understanding correctly
 
TheRidDlerX said:
Yup indeed. On top of the roof. That's where cold goes first then feeds the Kwikot inside the roof, which tops up the temp electrically using the Geyserwise.
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thats odd though normally thermo-siphon has the tank above the panels and works with the old hot water rises cold water sinks ,
but there always different new ways with geysers
 
isie said:
thats odd though normally thermo-siphon has the tank above the panels and works with the old hot water rises cold water sinks ,
but there always different new ways with geysers
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I think what he's saying is the geysers are connected in series. The thermo-siphon does the heavy lifting heating up the cold water which then passes on to the electric geyser in the roof.
 
Speedster said:
I think what he's saying is the geysers are connected in series. The thermo-siphon does the heavy lifting heating up the cold water which then passes on to the electric geyser in the roof.
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Nailed it, thank you
isie said:
thats odd though normally thermo-siphon has the tank above the panels and works with the old hot water rises cold water sinks ,
but there always different new ways with geysers
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Sorry I could have most likely explained it better, **** thermodynamics - warm bo, koud onder, een lyn, yay gravity, whoop. Tye soos die laat my wonder of my pa werklik so trots is as wat hy gese het
 
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