Global warming pause due to Pacific winds, study finds

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So the scientists want us to trust the climate change models even though by their own admittance, the role of Pacific winds was stronger than anticipated. Interesting.

Scientists in Australia say strong winds in the Pacific are the reason for a 14-year slowdown in global warming and have warned that the warming process will soon resume.

In a study that is likely to irritate climate change sceptics, the researchers concluded that unusually strong trade winds pushed hotter waters deep below the surface and raised colder waters but global warming –typically based on ocean temperatures - will soon continue.

Sceptics have long pointed to the pause in warming since 2001 as evidence that dire predictions about the impact of climate change are overblown.

Matthew England, the lead researcher, from the University of New South Wales, said the Pacific winds had been stronger than anticipated in climate models. But, he said, the variation was natural and the winds would soon return to normal levels.

"The phase we're in of accelerated trade winds particularly lasts a couple of decades," Professor England told ABC News.

"We're about 12 to 13 years in to the most accelerated part of the wind field. It's important to point out there's a cycle we expect to reverse and when they do reverse back to their normal levels, we'd expect global warming to kick in and start to rise."

Professor England said the trade winds had strengthened over the equatorial Pacific since the 1990s and had been twice as fierce as normal. But the variations had not been included in 50 climate models analysed by the researchers.

Indeed, he said it was surprising the world had not cooled in the past decade rather than its temperatures merely plateauing.

"We want the community to have confidence in the climate models,” Professor England said.

The study was published in Nature Climate Change.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/en...g-pause-due-to-Pacific-winds-study-finds.html
 
What's the issue? :confused:

Chris is manufacturing a pseudo issue (most likely due to his confusion in understanding how climate models work). There is no issue. If you go through Chris`s posts you will see most of his climate change posts are from the Telegraph tabloid. Hence his confusion.

Its been shown in other threads that consequences of climate change are sometimes underestimated in climate change models. If scientists dont do this they are labled as "alarmists".

Poor scientists, damned if they do, damned if they dont.
 
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Ok, so it was fairly minor climate change model adjustment...but at least it proves that climate change models aren't perfect (what sceptics have been saying for years). The models are used for all the doom and gloom predictions we see constantly. However, even if it is a small adjustment, I wonder what other things they have under or over-estimated.

By the way Ghoti...if you actually read the article:

The study was published in Nature Climate Change.

The Telegraph was simply reporting on the study - it wasn't an opinion piece. And Telegraph a tabloid? Lol.
 
The Telegraph was simply reporting on the study - it wasn't an opinion piece. And Telegraph a tabloid? Lol.

The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in modern times.[14] The personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the Conservative Party, along with the paper's generally right wing stance and influence over Conservative activists, have resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, especially in Private Eye, as the Torygraph.[14] Even when Conservative support was shown to have slumped in the opinion polls and Labour became ascendant in them (particularly when leader Tony Blair rebranded the party as "New Labour" on becoming leader after the death of John Smith in 1994), the newspaper remained loyal to the Conservatives. This loyalty continued after Labour ousted the Conservatives from power by a landslide election result in 1997, and in the face of Labour election wins in 2001 and the third successive Labour election win in 2005.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph

Everyone knows the how they spin climate stories. Worst type of tabloid science. No wonder so many people who read it are confused.
 
Ok, so it was fairly minor climate change model adjustment...but at least it proves that climate change models aren't perfect (what sceptics have been saying for years).

Who has claimed that they're perfect?

The models are used for all the doom and gloom predictions we see constantly. However, even if it is a small adjustment, I wonder what other things they have under or over-estimated.

Doom and gloom predictions aren't coming from the majority of climate change scientists, i can tell you that much.

I feel these climate discussions with the same people just go in circles, its like they have goldfish memories and bring up the exact same straw man arguments time and time again.
 
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So, a question to the MyBB experts: Is Global warming happening or not? Taking in to account, that the last few years America had experienced the coldest winters in ages, I would wager that there isn't a lot of people that really know what's happening with regards to "global anything". It's really confusing.... :whistle:
 
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