Global Warming Scam Exposed?

Nokkie i will get more into the tree thing but look at this dude.

On average, volcanoes spew over 130 million tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year. That sounds like a lot, but compare it to global fossil fuel emissions: in 2005, we emitted more than 27 billion tons of CO2. Emissions from human activity are more than 200 times the emissions from volcanic activity.

I was correct is it c02. So my memory is holding its own today :D.

# We are losing Earth's greatest biological treasures just as we are beginning to appreciate their true value. Rainforests once covered 14% of the earth's land surface; now they cover a mere 6% and experts estimate that the last remaining rainforests could be consumed in less than 40 years.

Explain to me again nokkie about all these paper companies because they are not the only ones destroying forests.
http://www.rain-tree.com/facts.htm

Tell me again how the planet is coping with us? In my opinion the planet is not coping at all.

Look at what we are doing to the oceans:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_causes_ocean_pollution

I am just finding links but i watched all this on history a few months ago. If you think the human race is not destroying the planet then you need a reality check, we will destroy this planet and i think i may still be alive to witness it.
 
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remember that as the planet warms vast tracts of land that were previously uninhabitable because of cold conditions and ice, now become prime land for farming and forestation. I'm thinking about millions and millions of square kilometres in NorthEast Asia and Canada.

Don't worry... this planet has been around a long time. She is quite capable of taking care of herself and of us.
 
Other side of the story:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/#more-1853

Since emails are normally intended to be private, people writing them are, shall we say, somewhat freer in expressing themselves than they would in a public statement. For instance, we are sure it comes as no shock to know that many scientists do not hold Steve McIntyre in high regard. Nor that a large group of them thought that the Soon and Baliunas (2003), Douglass et al (2008) or McClean et al (2009) papers were not very good (to say the least) and should not have been published. These sentiments have been made abundantly clear in the literature (though possibly less bluntly).

More interesting is what is not contained in the emails. There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research, no grand plan to ‘get rid of the MWP’, no admission that global warming is a hoax, no evidence of the falsifying of data, and no ‘marching orders’ from our socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords. The truly paranoid will put this down to the hackers also being in on the plot though.
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Garyvdh said:
remember that as the planet warms vast tracts of land that were previously uninhabitable because of cold conditions and ice, now become prime land for farming and forestation. I'm thinking about millions and millions of square kilometres in NorthEast Asia and Canada.

Don't worry... this planet has been around a long time. She is quite capable of taking care of herself and of us.
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The trouble is you look at as though planet earth needs to take care of us, when we should be taking taking of her. You have it backwards in my opinion. It is that kind of logic that will see the human race continue with the abuse earth. (please do not take that personally as it is not meant to be)

Earth has given us everything we need to thrive but we are abusing this planet very badly. Eventually our abuse will be our demise. Once the human race is gone the earth will recover.
 
yes global warming is a scam, making a few people richer, sure we are warming up the earth - but so what, none of us will be here to see the so called ice age in any case...

I honestly couldn't care less.

The biggest problem the human race have at the moment is the fact that they breed like there is no tomorrow, that in the end will kill us before global warming kicks in.
 
I cannot believe there are still idiots in this day and age who believe that us humans are not doing any damage to our planet!

I seriously would have thought humans were more intelligent than that!

And then some selfish people even go as far as saying so what, they will not be here. I hope those types do not plan on having children... and if they don't then fsuk them for feeling they are entitled to screw the planet up for my children!
 
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LancelotSA said:
I cannot believe there are still idiots in this day and age who believe that us humans are not doing any damage to our planet?

I seriously would have though humans were more intelligent than that!

And then some selfish people even go as far as saying so what, they will not be here. I hope those types do not plan on having children... and if they don't then fsuk them for feeling they are entitled to screw the planet up for my children!
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The biggest lie : the youth is the future, newsflash they are going to die as well,
fact 1 : there will be another ice age, be it with us helping it along or the earth itself.
fact 2: The so called first world countries ( the leaders in global warming awareness and progress) are the ones who **** the earth up the most. so should I consider myself selfish if I don't support their stupid money making scheme? Sorry but I fail to see why I should care for something that I myself don't contribute much too.
 
What is the money making scheme you are referring to Morgoth?

I've got an interesting concept for you to comprehend. Yes, my children will die. But they will have children. And their children will have children. Should I only be concerned about myself and leave them to suffer? It is after all of no concern to me, I will not be here... :rolleyes:
 
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What is the money making scheme you are referring to Morgoth?

I've got an interesting concept for you to comprehend, Morgoth. Yes, my children will die. But they will have children. And their children will have children. Should I only be concerned about myself and leave them to suffer? It is after all of no concern to me, I will not be here... :rolleyes:
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Leave them to suffer, guess what , there will be an ice age as I said, as all the scientists say - so yes somewhere along the line people will die. I bet that keeps you awake at night? :confused:

As for the money making scheme. Check out Al Gore's salary in the last year, the increase in florescent light bulbs.... the solar energy market, or is it that all these people do it out of the goodness of their heart? The awareness of the planer or their own pockets?
 
And when you buy incandescent bulbs do you get those for free? If so where? If I need to pay a few cents, or even rands, more then so what. If it is a big scam then again, so what.

If I am not doing anything for the planet as it is all a scam then I am still saving on electricity. How does your argument lead to you benefiting in any way?

We are all going to die one day anyway so let me just kill my children now. Why not? They are doomed anyway.

I think you attitude sums up the difference between being an optimist and, probably in your eyes, a "realist" (I prefer to use the term pessimist for someone like yourself).
 
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Go and read Michael Crichton's State of Fear. It will give you a total different outlook on global warming. I know it is fiction, but he did a lot of research and talked to researchers to get the facts correct for his book. There are about 50 pages at the end of the book just explaining where he got his info and what it all means.
 
I love the way people point to AGW proponents as part of some kind of money-making scam when the REAL money is still in oil. ExxonMobil alone makes around $40 BILLION in profit each year. That beats the hell out of profits made by ANY renewable energy company. Where's the real vested interest here?
 
convince the oil companies and their consumers not to harm the environment and I might contribute a bit by changing all the light bulbs in the house, otherwise I will buy a big heater and be ready for the ice age.
 
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And when you buy incandescent bulbs do you get those for free? If so where? If I need to pay a few cents, or even rands, more then so what. If it is a big scam then again, so what.

If I am not doing anything for the planet as it is all a scam then I am still saving on electricity. How does your argument lead to you benefiting in any way?

We are all going to die one day anyway so let me just kill my children now. Why not? They are doomed anyway.

I think you attitude sums up the difference between being an optimist and, probably in your eyes, a "realist" (I prefer to use the term pessimist for someone like yourself).
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my definition of a pessimist : OMG we are all going to die lets adapt to a greener life style.

and yes I am a realist, nothing I do in the next 50 years will have a major impact on the planet. Unless of course I own a big company that is having a big impact on the planet at the moment as it is.
 
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and yes I am a realist, nothing I do in the next 50 years will have a major impact on the planet. Unless of course I own a big company that is having a big impact on the planet at the moment as it is.
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There is no point in having this discussion with someone like yourself. It is always the person next to you who is at fault. You are incapable of seeing that each and every one of us is at fault and need to do our bit.

But as stated... it is pointless trying to get you to see this. The rest of us will just need to take responsibility and you can enjoy the fruits of it if we are successful.
 
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There is no point in having this discussion with someone like yourself. It is always the person next to you who is at fault. You are incapable of seeing that each and every one of us is at fault and need to do our bit.

But as stated... it is pointless trying to get you to see this. The rest of us will just need to take responsibility and you can enjoy the fruits of it if we are successful.
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sweet, so someone else will save the planet for me.... be honest now, do you really think that there will be a major policy change to a greener future in the next couple of years, or in either of our lifetimes?

I am quite capable of seeing who is most responsible for the pollution, co2, ice melting, unemployment of santa Clause and what not and it is not the consumer, rather the producer :)

I put humans that breed on top of my light of causes. If we want to make a big impact then start there, at the moment we will **** ourselves to extinction.

But tell my Lance, what major change have you made towards global warming? replaced all your light bulbs yet? replaced your geyser with a solar power one?...or are you waiting for some alarm to go off like I am? At least I admit that I don't give a dam about the climate debate I wonder how many of the experts made a drastic change in their lifestyle.
 
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