Good Contract for Android (Data + Voice)

JBenci

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I love my android device. I can't go a day with out using the data services on it but the prices Im paying for data is crazy, So I'm looking for a new contract that offers loads of data and some anytime voice minutes. The best deal I've found so far is Redbull Mobiles RBM 200. Where you get 200 anytime minutes + 500mb data (and a good motorola android phone, but I dont care about a new phone) for R250.

Are there any offers out there that can beat this. I'd like lots of data, antime minutes. SMS and the type of phone is not important.

Thanks.
 
Yeah the RBM mobile is a decent deal, as is the Cell C 2gb promotion, and the new 8ta 10gb a month thing.
 
Nothing in the market beats the bang for buck of the RBM contracts. When I did a cost benefit analysis on this and competing contracts it was so far ahead the others were blown out of the water.

A simple run down:

RBM 200:

200 anytime minutes then R1.5 per min there after
100 sms's the 50c per sms there after
500MB data then 30c per meg there after

Total cost R250 including itemised billing and CLI

Vodacom Talk 240:

240 anytime minutes then between R1.49 to R1.85 per min for R430
100 sms bundle R33 then between 35c and 80c per sms
600MB data R189 then R2 per meg

Total cost excluding itemised billing and CLI = R652 so say R675 including itemised billing and CLI

That is a R425 difference per month for approximately the same thing or to be blunt R10200 over two years. I can get 2 decent laptops for that price.
 
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What about the 8ta? I was looking at their website today, and some of their deals are pretty damn good.

If you go for the Saver 4, you pay R250 per month, and get R250 airtime. You can use R150 of that to buy a 500mb data bundle each month, and you'll still have R100 left over for voice calls and SMSes. In terms of phones, you can get the HTC Desire, HTC Desire Z, Samsung Galaxy S for R499 pay-in, all of which are still pretty good phones even by today's standards.

If you wanted a cheaper option, you could get the Saver 3, which is R130 per month and gives you R130 of airtime. Spend R100 of that to buy a 250mb data bundle (which should still be quite for most users), and have R30 left over. On this plan, you would need to pay in R1,499 to get the Galaxy S.

Of course, you have to be on 8ta, which is not exactly South Africa's coverage leader.

You know, I wish we had some sort of dedicated Consumer Reports-type website to analyse these things in detail. They could pick a phone (the Galaxy S seems like a good candidate because it's available on every network) and say, if you wanted to get this phone plus 250mb of data per month, what would be a) the initial pay-in, and b) the monthly fee on every network in South Africa. That would be extremely useful information for people who are shopping for a new smartphone.
 
the only thing that androids lack is a decent data plan. i really don't want to port. i just wonder if mtn will answer this offer. I doubt it. probably just wait till limited period is over.
 
Maybe we can work some sort of meaningful comparison ourselves?

As a starting point, let's say you wanted an Android phone with 500mb data per month, and a little bit of extra money for occasional voice calls and SMSes, as well as the ability to top up with extra airtime if you need to buy it. Here's how much a 500mb bundle will cost on each carrier:

8ta: R150
Cell C: R150
Vodacom: R185
MTN: R189
Virgin: R300

So, what contract would you have to buy on each network to allow you buy their 500mb data bundle each month?

Cell C ControlChat 200: R200 (this will leave you with R85 after purchasing your data bundle to spend on voice calls and SMSes)
Vodacom TopUp 200: R200 (this will leave you with R15 after purchasing your data bundle )
8ta Saver 4: R250 (this will leave you with R100 after purchasing your data bundle )
Virgin Mobile: Topup Phone Contract 299 (this will leave you with R0 after purchasing your data bundle - very impractical)

MTN I can't figure out. Their website is very confusing.

Now, as a point of reference, I would just need to find out the initial cost of getting a Samsung Galaxy S on each of those contracts, and that will give a good idea of which carrier is the cheapest.
 
on mtn u can't use your contract money. ie. if u get 100 u cannot buy a bundle data. u must buy additional airtime to purchase data. eg. you pay 100 for your contract. then you have to buy another R189 airtime to purchase the 500mb bundle
 
Sorry guys but nothing here comes close to the rbm deal.

I think we all need some consensus on what a smart phone package needs to be before we look at a device. Having a sweet phone means nothing if cannot use it.

Personally I want at least 100 minutes, some SMS and a decent chunk of data say 500 megs. A decent device is also important. I don't want a piece of garbage.

For me the rbm does it. Even if I sell the rbm phone and buy a better one it still comes in well priced.

Sent from my GT-I9000
 
For me the rbm does it. Even if I sell the rbm phone and buy a better one it still comes in well priced.

Sent from my GT-I9000

That's pretty much what I did. Using a Galaxy S on the 250 deal, gave the Moto to my girlfriend. The deal is amazing, very happy so far, no problems
 
Tracking this...

It'll be interesting to see which phones you can get. I'm curious about how much you'll have to pay in for certain phones. Such as the HTC desire Z... (I really want a qwerty keyboard)
 
Tracking this...

It'll be interesting to see which phones you can get. I'm curious about how much you'll have to pay in for certain phones. Such as the HTC desire Z... (I really want a qwerty keyboard)

RBM only offers two phones on the 250. A Hauwai and the Moto. Bit unfortunate but that's probably the only way they can afford to offer this deal
 
Yeah true. I wouldn't go for that HD phone though. The moto is pretty cool with it's ruggedness. But I've also never had a good experience with motorola phones.
 
Yeah true. I wouldn't go for that HD phone though. The moto is pretty cool with it's ruggedness. But I've also never had a good experience with motorola phones.

You should check out the the MB525 thread. Guys are loving their hardened waterproof phones.
 
I have checked it out... I'm tempted to get it for my fiance as she's quite the clumsy woman. Gracefully clumsy, dropping her poor phone every now and then.
 
You should check out the the MB525 thread. Guys are loving their hardened waterproof phones.

I own a Samsung Galaxy S so I'm used to one of the best phones on the market (at least last year's phones). I passed the Motorola on to my girlfriend but played around with it for a few days.

I have to say that the phone is really good.

Compared to the high end models you lack a bit of storage (can be extended via SD card) and the display isn't as good. Let me ellaborate that one; the resolution of the screen is amazing and its cristal clear. However, since it is a LCD (and no AMOLED or similar) there is a small gap between screen and the glass on top which has an impact on visability in direct sunlight.

The screen is 3.7" which is a nice size but obviously is quite a bit smaller than a nice 4.3".

The RBM version of the phone runs a non-blur version of 2.1/2.2 which lacks social media sync. You can flash your own ROM of course to upgrade to 2.3.4 and get social sync.

The phone's CPU runs at 800Mhz. This does not seem to have an impact on performance though. It is also safe and easy to overclock to 1Ghz.

The phone also does not have a front facing camera.

Other than that the phone is on par with the high-end models such as Desire HD, Galaxy S, Sensation and whatever else. The GPS is fast and accurate, sound and voice quality are top, the performance is very smooth, camera is great for a 5MP, battery life is exceptional and the multi colour notification LED is a great addition too.

Overall, its a great phone for the price
 
Sorry guys but nothing here comes close to the rbm deal.

I think we all need some consensus on what a smart phone package needs to be before we look at a device. Having a sweet phone means nothing if cannot use it.

Personally I want at least 100 minutes, some SMS and a decent chunk of data say 500 megs. A decent device is also important. I don't want a piece of garbage.

For me the rbm does it. Even if I sell the rbm phone and buy a better one it still comes in well priced.

The RBM deal is very good. The only thing that bothers me is that I would prefer to be on a topup contract. It just adds an extra layer of safety for the consumer. If one of your Android apps starts acting up and downloading gigabytes of data at out-of-bundle rates, the worst that can happen on topup is that you lose your airtime for the month and have to buy more. You'll never get a "surprise" R3,000 bill at the end of the month. I mean, this probably wouldn't happen to me because I'm a bit more careful about these things than the average consumer: I monitor my data usage, and I would never do something stupid like travel internationally with roaming and background data enabled. But even so, I just like the safety net of having your spending capped at an absolute limit.

Unfortunately, if you want to be on topup this restricts your options somewhat. In the post above, I said that I was considering 8ta for my next contract. In terms of pricing, 8ta is very good. Their data bundles are among the cheapest in the country, and the prices they charge for their phones are very low. (Samsung Galaxy S is R499 on 8ta Saver 4, compared to R1,849 on Vodacom Topup 275 and R3,369 on Cell C ControlChat 200). However, 8ta makes their "saver" (ie. topup) contracts unusable in practice because they don't allow you buy data bundles at all. I checked at the 8ta shop and they were very clear about this - the only way to access the internet on an 8ta Saver contract is to pay out-of-bundle rates. This is beyond useless. What's the point of having good prices on data bundles if they don't allow their customers to buy them?

You can also scratch MTN off the list, because they suck: their prices for phones and data bundles are the most expensive of any network in the country, and like 8ta, they don't allow you to buy data bundles with your topup airtime.

So that just leaves a choice between Vodacom and Cell C. To do a fair comparison between them, I tried to calculate what would be the total cost of ownership on a 2-year topup contract, buying a decent data bundle, and taking the Samsung Galaxy S as your phone. These are the results I got:

Cell C:

Contract: ControlChat 200
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S
Initial pay-in: R3,369
Monthly fee: R200
Data bundle: 500mb
Airtime left over after purchasing data bundle: R85

Total cost of subscription over two years: R4,800
Total cost of ownership over two years: R 8,169


Vodacom:

Contract: TopUp 275
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S
Initial pay-in: R1,849
Monthly fee: R275
Data bundle: 500mb
Airtime left over after purchasing data bundle: R90

Total cost of subscription over two years: R6,600
Total cost of ownership over two years: R 8,449

A couple of points stand out here. First, it's amazing how similar they are. For all the talk that Cell C is cheaper than Vodacom, once you add the cost of the device into the equation, Cell C is only R300 cheaper than VC over a 2-year contract. The main difference is that on Cell C the costs are more front-loaded, where as on Vodacom they are more spread out over time.

Second, maybe I really should consider my preference for TopUp contracts. Compared to either of these plans, the RBM deal (which includes a free phone, and will give you a lot more voice minutes and SMSes than either of these plans) seems like a bargain at R6,000 spread out over two years with no initial pay-in.

The only problems with RBM, as far as I can tell, are:

1. A poor selection of phones to start out with
2. I'm assuming your phone comes with a bunch of "Red Bull" bloatware that can't be removed without rooting and voiding your warranty. Is this true?
 
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The only problems with RBM, as far as I can tell, are:

1. A poor selection of phones to start out with
2. I'm assuming your phone comes with a bunch of "Red Bull" bloatware that can't be removed without rooting and voiding your warranty. Is this true?

1: yes but the Moto MB525 is very good
2: no, just a rbm logo on bootup and a small one on the back of the device which can be removed
 
1: yes but the Moto MB525 is very good

So I've heard! I played with one at a Cell C store today and it seemed like a really nice phone, although an 800mhz CPU still feels like too much of a step down from my current Desire. However, it will be quite a long time before my Vodacom contract expires, so maybe before tha happens RBM will get better phones. (Or maybe RBM's pricing will filter down the rest of Cell C's line. Or maybe there will be new and better offers from other players. Who knows what the competitive landscape will look like a year from now?) For now, I am now persuaded that if I were getting a contract today, RBM would indeed be the one to go for. As a previous post pointed out, if you really don't like the selection of phones they have, you can always sell the one you get for free and buy something else. I actually like the idea of uncoupling hardware purchases and contract purchases, because the place that gives you the best deal for one is not necessarily going to give you the best deal for the other.

2: no, just a rbm logo on bootup and a small one on the back of the device which can be removed

Oh. Wow. I didn't realise. That's awesome.

Hey, I have another question for RBM fans: the 200 voice minutes that they give you as part of the bundle can be used in both peak and off-peak times, right? Their website says that "premium rated and international calls are excluded from bundle", but I don't know what "premium rated calls" refers to specifically.
 
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