Goodman Gallery sorry - Paul Mashatile

antowan

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http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/Goodman-Gallery-sorry-Mashatile-20120528

Johannesburg - The Goodman Gallery regrets hurt caused by the display of a painting depicting President Jacob Zuma with exposed genitals, Arts and Culture Minister Paul Mashatile said on Monday.

"I had a meeting with the owner of the Goodman Gallery, Lisa Esser, who said she regrets the pain that the display of The Spear had caused to Zuma, his family as well as to the nation," Mashatile said.

"She had no intention of hurting or upsetting anyone, but understood that it did hurt people and our nation. The piece was removed from the gallery."
 

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They are effectively labeling everybody that stood up for them as idiots... This is a mother ****ing scandal!

This gallery can go to the dogs now for all I care if this story is true and the context is correct...
 

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They are effectively labeling everybody that stood up for them as idiots... This is a mother ****ing scandal!

This gallery can go to the dogs now for all I care if this story is true and the context is correct...

The gangs of rioters are "marching" on the gallery later today.
By the end of the day it may have been burned to the ground.
 

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Zuma and the ANC are like the "Brett The Hitman Hart" of African Politics. Getting everyone in their path to "Tap Out".
Intimidation = Sharpshooter
 

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http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/Goodman-Gallery-sorry-Mashatile-20120528

Johannesburg - The Goodman Gallery regrets hurt caused by the display of a painting depicting President Jacob Zuma with exposed genitals, Arts and Culture Minister Paul Mashatile said on Monday.

"I had a meeting with the owner of the Goodman Gallery, Lisa Esser, who said she regrets the pain that the display of The Spear had caused to Zuma, his family as well as to the nation," Mashatile said.

"She had no intention of hurting or upsetting anyone, but understood that it did hurt people and our nation. The piece was removed from the gallery."

Good on Lisa Esser for addressing the emotional aspect which did indeed hurt many people and our nation, something we often forget. Her apology in no way detracts from the fact that there are strong messages behind the painting which we can all agree with.
 

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Good on Lisa Esser for addressing the emotional aspect which did indeed hurt many people and our nation, something we often forget. Her apology in no way detracts from the fact that there are strong messages behind the painting which we can all agree with.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
 

jikajoe1

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First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

isn't what history always teaches us all the time.
 

PostmanPot

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First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

It's the privileged who are the most apathetic, SA's safety relies on them to be more active.
 

Lycanthrope

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http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/Goodman-Gallery-sorry-Mashatile-20120528

Johannesburg - The Goodman Gallery regrets hurt caused by the display of a painting depicting President Jacob Zuma with exposed genitals, Arts and Culture Minister Paul Mashatile said on Monday.

"I had a meeting with the owner of the Goodman Gallery, Lisa Esser, who said she regrets the pain that the display of The Spear had caused to Zuma, his family as well as to the nation," Mashatile said.

"She had no intention of hurting or upsetting anyone, but understood that it did hurt people and our nation. The piece was removed from the gallery."

And so censorship wins because it "offends" those who choose to take offence.

What a lovely world we live in when we have to fear expression and intolerance and all because of a painting.

South Africa hasn't moved forward at all. It's still stuck in the same backwater pit as before.

It's the privileged who are the most apathetic, SA's safety relies on them to be more active.

Its safety?

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
- Benjamin Franklin

Something people often forget.
 

Flanders

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She had no intention of hurting or upsetting anyone, but understood that it did hurt people and our nation and after receiving numerous death threats as well as threats of the gallery being burned to the ground the piece was removed from the gallery."

More like it I'd say.
 

OrbitalDawn

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I think we musn't be too quick to judge the gallery or City Press. It's easy to support the cause from behind a keyboard or when speaking to your friends, but these people faced very real and personal liability and safety issues. I also didn't see any of the other major publications supporting them. People were basically saying "yeah we support you, but we won't publically put ourselves in the ANC's firing line."

If it were some big corrupion scandal, I suppose it would be different, although in principle I find censorship despicable. Disgusting behaviour from the ANC.

Since we're doing the quote thing, have some Voltaire:

"It's dangerous to be right when those in power are wrong."
 

Mila

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the ANC is bussing in supporters. Let’s hope they behave and do not burn the gallery.
 

Albereth

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the ANC is bussing in supporters. Let’s hope they behave and do not burn the gallery.

Or make a mess at Zoo Lake?

And If I was the gallery I'd be closed today.

The memorandum? Put it in the post. Oh, they are on strike too? What a pity.
 

Mila

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Or make a mess at Zoo Lake?

And If I was the gallery I'd be closed today.

The memorandum? Put it in the post. Oh, they are on strike too? What a pity.
Seems like one more reason for the ANC not to create jobs. More people to bus around bullying people.
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Albereth

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Seems like one more reason for the ANC not to create jobs. More people to bus around bullying people.
.

Mind you, a trip to a gallery is about as much culture as ANC supporters can expect from their leaders.
 

Creag

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the ANC is bussing in supporters. Let’s hope they behave and do not burn the gallery.

Depends on what their instructions are. But yeah, let's hope for some sanity and "healing".
 

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Good on Lisa Esser for addressing the emotional aspect which did indeed hurt many people and our nation, something we often forget. Her apology in no way detracts from the fact that there are strong messages behind the painting which we can all agree with.

A very small point: how many of the 'hurt' have seen the actual painting ?
 
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