GoSolr vs Solar

[Lupus]

Ok maybe I've messed up something - and I'm going out now, so can't re-calculate gain .

Are you happy with the 20-25 units per day though?

I'll sort out when I'm home

20 can be normal yeah

 

[leon.davibe]

The R60k is a Victron inverter which I understand is already pretty good ?

Yea the victron is very efficient old fashioned though

The one plus with the victrons/sunsynk/deye is that it is a lot easier to later parralel another unit as you can get a similar unit

While with the cheapies you are almost certain to not be bale to find a unit to parallel

Maybe i am a bit pessimistic

Would i buy them over cheapies if i can afford them

HELL YES

 

[leon.davibe]

What's with all the salt?

My memmory is kak with certain things

ie some data gets cleared out of the cache

And the bottom line for my scenario saved

Edit and the docs was really crappy

A plain old simple price list would have been easier to get the bottom line

They intentionally fluff it up

So they can **** you over cause most give up trying the make sense of their docs

 

[Speedster]

My memmory is kak with certain things

ie some data gets cleared out of the cache

And the bottom line for my scenario saved

Edit and the docs was really crappy

A plain old simple price list would have been easier to get the bottom line

They intentionally fluff it up

So they can **** you over cause most give up trying the make sense of their docs

What does that have to do with salt?

 

[SauRoNZA]

At the very least don’t by default trust the friend of a friend who is likely to sell you old or even second hand stock for a quick buck.

At least get a quote from someone reputable who has an actual company in the business.

Plenty of recommendations all over the forums.

(375W panels is what makes it sound like clearing of old or even second hand stock)

Install the biggest panels you physically can accommodate otherwise you are severally restricting yourself in the future.

 

[joshuatree]

If you have the need for solar, and you do because of the longer than normal scheduled outages in your area currently, just go for the renting option, less headaches, see it as just paying another utility or subscription service for that matter.

Forget about the ROI etc, because those who went the full Monty disregard it anyway.

Especially if you are moving/relocating.

Paying a penalty is not even something to be concerned about.

 

[Academic]

Get yourself a pension backed loan. It is perfect for financing improvements to your house.

 

[Academic]

Get yourself a pension backed loan. It is perfect for financing improvements to your house.

Weblink to detail of my retirement fund: https://uctrf.co.za/uctrf/housing-loans

 

[leon.davibe]

At the very least don’t by default trust the friend of a friend who is likely to sell you old or even second hand stock for a quick buck.

At least get a quote from someone reputable who has an actual company in the business.

Plenty of recommendations all over the forums.

(375W panels is what makes it sound like clearing of old or even second hand stock)

Install the biggest panels you physically can accommodate otherwise you are severally restricting yourself in the future.

If you want to expand obviously it might be easier to get slcertain sizes

The bigger panels are not just bigger watts but also bigger size

In the end you end up with the equivelant area covered for x amount of watts

ie higher wattage panels does not mean you will be able to fit more panels

Smaller panels often 60 cell panels lend themselves better to lower voltage mppt
ie being able to series 3 instead of 2

To hit the sweet spot ie not to drop out the mppt range at the bottom

Plus hail prone areas most likely the smaller surface area might make it survive better

 

[SauRoNZA]

If you want to expand obviously it might be easier to get slcertain sizes

The bigger panels are not just bigger watts but also bigger size

In the end you end up with the equivelant area covered for x amount of watts

Smaller panels often 60 cell panels lend themselves better to lower voltage mppt
ie being able to series 3 instead of 2

To hit the sweet spot ie not to drop out the mppt range at the bottom

Plus hail prone areas most likely the smaller surface area might make it survive better

Hence why I said get the biggest you can physically accommodate.

Quoting 375W just seems like a default on paper quote with very little forethought for actual location and future usage and expansion.

 

[Bliksis]

GoSolr will give you the option to buy the installation at an insane price after 3 years, or pay them to remove it.

 

[Lupus]

If you have the need for solar, and you do because of the longer than normal scheduled outages in your area currently, just go for the renting option, less headaches, see it as just paying another utility or subscription service for that matter.

Forget about the ROI etc, because those who went the full Monty disregard it anyway.

Especially if you are moving/relocating.

Paying a penalty is not even something to be concerned about.

With load shedding this high I don't go for roi anymore

 

[Dolby]

At the very least don’t by default trust the friend of a friend who is likely to sell you old or even second hand stock for a quick buck.

At least get a quote from someone reputable who has an actual company in the business.

Plenty of recommendations all over the forums.

(375W panels is what makes it sound like clearing of old or even second hand stock)

Install the biggest panels you physically can accommodate otherwise you are severally restricting yourself in the future.

He’s got an actual company and the stock is brand new, warrantied & straight from the distributor. It gets delivered to by address and bypasses him.

He doesn’t usually do residential at all and he does multimillion corporate / complex / malls. The last install he did the battery alone was closing on R2m.

Regarding the pricing, I’ve done a quick check online and the equipment is about R60,000+ He doesn’t really want to do other brands - but Victron/Pylon batteries don’t seem to be inferior from what I’ve read.

Remember, I’ve been in a financial dip for 3 years and thus, the cost is a huge thing for me. I’m really trying to go as inexpensive as possible and still be able to work .

Better or more panels sound great - but I just can’t afford them right now

PS I haven’t got an official quote from other companies, but as soon as mention the equipment costing they can’t match the price - unless they swap to another brand

 

[Dolby]

With load shedding this high I don't go for roi anymore

My issue is not only the length of loadshedding, but the fact it doesn’t come on. Yesterday and today I’ve been ok - but I like I say I had 40hrs off on Monday & Tuesday . Last week Money & Tuesday was 37hrs in a single go!

I’ve had to go work & charge devices elsewhere . On many occasions my notebook is hanging on - but no Internet. So I hotspot the phone and buy data. And then after so many hours, I have to toss the contents of the fridge away. Twice in one week now.

 

[Dolby]

We actually had EWN news here yesterday interviewing the residents on the absolute shitty power situation. We’re among the worst area

 

[Dolby]

GoSolr will give you the option to buy the installation at an insane price after 3 years, or pay them to remove it.

So the other thing is that I don’t plan to be in house on 3 years . This is a ‘quick fix’ for me.

 

[SauRoNZA]

He’s got an actual company and the stock is brand new, warrantied & straight from the distributor. It gets delivered to by address and bypasses him.

He doesn’t usually do residential at all and he does multimillion corporate / complex / malls. The last install he did the battery alone was closing on R2m.

Regarding the pricing, I’ve done a quick check online and the equipment is about R60,000+ He doesn’t really want to do other brands - but Victron/Pylon batteries don’t seem to be inferior from what I’ve read.

Remember, I’ve been in a financial dip for 3 years and thus, the cost is a huge thing for me. I’m really trying to go as inexpensive as possible and still be able to work .

Better or more panels sound great - but I just can’t afford them right now

PS I haven’t got an official quote from other companies, but as soon as mention the equipment costing they can’t match the price - unless they swap to another brand

As long as there’s some due diligence and there’s a legit business behind it then it’s all good.

If load shedding is your primary concern you could save a lot of money by not going solar at all as there is no CoC or registrations to be done and obviously no panels.

Then you could potentially do a bigger inverter instead and still come in lower on cost.

 

[Dolby]

@Lupus this is how I’m getting geyser stats . I can see on the daily stats as well that 8 seems to be typical use.

It’s not going to be accurate on a day to day basis because of my long outages. So on those days I’ll use (almost) zero - and then when it comes back it’s cooler and everyone wants to shower … so it’ll spike the 3rd day.

But as an average seems 7 or 8 is where I sit

 

[Dolby]

As long as there’s some due diligence and there’s a legit business behind it then it’s all good.

If load shedding is your primary concern you could save a lot of money by not going solar at all as there is no CoC or registrations to be done and obviously no panels.

Then you could potentially do a bigger inverter instead and still come in lower on cost.

So I thought about this as well - but the cost of inverter to run me for 20-30hrs would probably be pretty high? I guess?

Probably close to the R60k for an inverter that size?

And I think with the R60k , I’ll probably save on my Eskom bill - even if only R500pm?

But I think I’m going to go this route . It can be done hopefully in the next 2 weeks

 

[Lupus]

My issue is not only the length of loadshedding, but the fact it doesn’t come on. Yesterday and today I’ve been ok - but I like I say I had 40hrs off on Monday & Tuesday . Last week Money & Tuesday was 37hrs in a single go!

I’ve had to go work & charge devices elsewhere . On many occasions my notebook is hanging on - but no Internet. So I hotspot the phone and buy data. And then after so many hours, I have to toss the contents of the fridge away. Twice in one week now.

Yeah then go for a bigger system to hold you longer.