GPU upgrade decisions, decisions..

The Voice said:
If that's all your intend on playing then by all means, get the RX 480.
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Ponder claims getting 120 fps on a 60 Hz display will be better though than 80 fps. This is what I'm trying to understand.
 
biometrics said:
Ponder claims getting 120 fps on a 60 Hz display will be better though than 80 fps. This is what I'm trying to understand.
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Hmm. Yes and no. Not sure which analogy to use. Let's try this: a standard SA building site. Guy at the top of scaffolding is a bricklayer (monitor). There's a guy a metre below him passing him the bricks (GPU). If the guy passing the bricks is slow, the guy laying them has to constantly wait for the next brick (FPS drop). If the guy passing the bricks is working at the same speed as the guy on the scaffolding can lay them, it's synced. If the guy passes the bricks faster than the other guy can lay them, though, it's not ideal, because the bricklayer can only take another brick and lay it as fast as his human reactions allow him to, so the guy below is now waiting with a bunch of bricks in his arms until the other guy has caught up. There's no visible delay, and the process still is as smooth and fluid, if not smoother, than when it was synced, because there's always a constant supply of bricks, and the bricklayer keeps building the wall at a constant rate without breaking a sweat.

So it will definitely be better for performance - my point was you won't physically see more frames than your monitor can refresh.
 
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The Voice said:
Hmm. Yes and no. Not sure which analogy to use. Let's try this: a standard SA building site. Guy at the top of scaffolding is a bricklayer (monitor). There's a guy a metre below him passing him the bricks (GPU). If the guy passing the bricks is slow, the guy laying them has to constantly wait for the next brick (FPS drop). If the guy passing the bricks is working at the same speed as the guy on the scaffolding can lay them, it's synced. If the guy passes the bricks faster than the other guy can lay them, though, it's not ideal, because the bricklayer can only take another brick and lay it as fast as his human reactions allow him to, so the guy below is now waiting with a bunch of bricks in his arms until the other guy has caught up. There's no visible delay, and the process still is as smooth and fluid, if not smoother, than when it was synced, because there's always a constant supply of bricks, and the bricklayer keeps building the wall at a constant rate without breaking a sweat.
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Ok but 80 fps on the RX480 is faster than the 60 Hz my display can handle.
 
biometrics said:
Ok but 80 fps on the RX480 is faster than the 60 Hz my display can handle.
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Forget about the 60Hz, the higher the fps the smoother & more responsive the game will feel, this does not hold true for all games but many games like first person shooters for example will play much better at a higher fps.

My CSGO runs at over 200fps, I can feel the difference if I restrict the fps to 120, at 60fps I won't even play the game because it just feels kuk and you cant play properly.
 
ponder said:
Forget about the 60Hz, the higher the fps the smoother & more responsive the game will feel, this does not hold true for all games but many games like first person shooters for example will play much better at a higher fps.

My CSGO runs at over 200fps, I can feel the difference if I restrict the fps to 120, at 60fps I won't even play the game because it just feels kuk and you cant play properly.
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Ok thanks. Food for thought.
 
ponder said:
Forget about the 60Hz, the higher the fps the smoother & more responsive the game will feel, this does not hold true for all games but many games like first person shooters for example will play much better at a higher fps.

My CSGO runs at over 200fps, I can feel the difference if I restrict the fps to 120, at 60fps I won't even play the game because it just feels kuk and you cant play properly.
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Indeed, and I mentioned that games feel smoother and better at higher fps, regardless of the refresh rate.
 
Well must say the GTX1070 G1 gaming is a beast! Games are maxed out and it never drops below 60fps ever :)
 
djbrendan said:
Well must say the GTX1070 G1 gaming is a beast! Games are maxed out and it never drops below 60fps ever :)
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Nice. Decided to go for the 1070, but just can't figure out which one. The Windforce 2x and G1 Gaming are the same price here (£420) - but the G1 seems to be a better card? How's the cooling/noise with the triple fan?
 
The Voice said:
Nice. Decided to go for the 1070, but just can't figure out which one. The Windforce 2x and G1 Gaming are the same price here (£420) - but the G1 seems to be a better card? How's the cooling/noise with the triple fan?
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Dead quiet,no sound.

only thing in my case making noise now is the HDD,even under load the G1 is silent,doesn't even turn on the fans when playing things like dota.Though battlefield 4 does turn it on after 5mins of play
 
Can Anyone tell me how to overclock my i5? GPU is being used at 56% and ram at 70%,then CPU jumps at 89-100% :/ assuming when it hits 100% i get frame drops.

i do have a very good cpu cooler on so it never goes over 58 degrees Celsius
 
djbrendan said:
Can Anyone tell me how to overclock my i5? GPU is being used at 56% and ram at 70%,then CPU jumps at 89-100% :/ assuming when it hits 100% i get frame drops.

i do have a very good cpu cooler on so it never goes over 58 degrees Celsius
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Specific i5 and motherboard?
 
Well my new card arrived today, nice and quick considering I only ordered it Friday afternoon.. :D

Had two snags, first being that the darn thing didn't fit in my case :p , luckily I was able to fix this by removing the metal structure for holding HDD's, as I only have one HDD and one SSD it was a simple matter to transfer them to the 5 1/2" drive area (have 4 bays and just one ROM so plenty of space).

Then it seemed the card wanted both 8 and 6 pin PCIE power cable plugged in - without both it won't boot just giving a "Please connect the PCIE power cables" message, thankfully I had a spare 6 pin cable for my PSU so that's sorted too.

Also needed to manually install the Linux driver as it seems Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't have a recent enough version. On Windows it just pretty much worked as I had the most current driver already. :)

Ran a quick "Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0" as it's the last benchmark tool I used so still installed, my system went from a score of 607 to 4371 so that's pretty neat.

Rise of the Tomb Raider is running beautifully now, everything on max never dropping below 60 fps.. :D Finally I can continue playing without feeling ill.
 
Forgot to mention, this card is wonderfully quiet, obviously I haven't heard it under extended heavy load just yet but so far even when the fans power up it's hard to hear over my PSU/CPU fans (which are both pretty quiet themselves).
 
redarrow said:
Forgot to mention, this card is wonderfully quiet, obviously I haven't heard it under extended heavy load just yet but so far even when the fans power up it's hard to hear over my PSU/CPU fans (which are both pretty quiet themselves).
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Same,hear my HDD now :p
 
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