Growing Up Unvaccinated

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I am the 70s child of a health nut. I wasn’t vaccinated. I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar til I was one, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame. My mother used homeopathy, aromatherapy, osteopathy, we took daily supplements of vitamin C, echinacea, cod liver oil. I had an outdoor lifestyle; I grew up next to a farm, walked everywhere, did sports and danced twice a week, drank plenty of water. I wasn’t even allowed pop; even my fresh juice was watered down to protect my teeth, and I would’ve killed for white, shop-bought bread in my lunch box once in a while and biscuits instead of fruit like all the other kids. We only ate (organic local) meat maybe once or twice a week and my mother and father cooked everything from scratch – I have yet to taste a Findus crispy pancake and oven chips were reserved for those nights when mum and dad had friends over and we got a “treat.”

As healthy as my lifestyle seemed, I contracted measles, mumps, rubella, a type of viral meningitis, scarlatina, whooping cough, yearly tonsillitis, and chickenpox, some of which are vaccine preventable. In my twenties I got precancerous HPV and spent 6 months of my life wondering how I was going to tell my two children under the age of 7 that mummy might have cancer before it was safely removed.

So having the “natural immunity sterilised out of us” just doesn’t cut it for me. How could I, with my idyllic childhood and my amazing health food, get so freaking ill all the time? My mother was the biggest health freak around–she would put most of my current “crunchy” friends to shame. She didn’t drink, she didn’t smoke, she didn’t do drugs and we certainly weren’t allowed to watch whatever we wanted on telly or wear plastic shoes or any of that stuff. She LIVED alternative health. And you know what? I’m glad she gave us the great diet that we had, I’m glad that she cared about us in that way.

But it just didn’t stop me getting childhood illnesses.

My two vaccinated children, on the other hand, have rarely been ill, have had antibiotics maybe twice in their lives, if that (not like me who got so many illnesses which needed treatment with antibiotics that I developed a resistance to them, which led me to be hospitalized with penicillin-resistant quinsy at 21–you know that old fashioned disease that killed Queen Elizabeth I and which was almost wiped out through use of antibiotics).

My kids have had no childhood illnesses other than chickenpox, which they both contracted while still breastfeeding. They too grew up on a healthy diet, homegrown organics etc. Not to the same extent as I did, though, as I was not quite as strict as my mother, but they are both healthier than I have ever been.

I find myself wondering about the claim that complications from childhood illnesses are extremely rare but that “vaccine injuries” are rampant. If this is the case, I struggle to understand why I know far more people who have experienced complications from preventable childhood illnesses than I have EVER met with complications from vaccines. I have friends who became deaf from measles. I have a partially sighted friend who contracted rubella in the womb. My ex got pneumonia from chickenpox. A friend’s brother died from meningitis.

Anecdotal evidence is nothing to base decisions on. But when facts and evidence-based science aren’t good enough to sway someone’s opinion, then this is where I come from. After all, anecdotes are the anti-vaccine supporter’s way. Well, this is my personal experience. And my personal experience prompts me to vaccinate my children and myself. I got the flu vaccine recently, and I am getting the whooping cough booster to protect my unborn baby. My natural immunity from having whooping cough at age 5 will not protect him once he’s born.

I understand, to a point, where the anti-vaccine parents are coming from. Back in the 90s when I was a concerned, 19-year-old mother, frightened by the world I was bringing my child into, I was studying homeopathy, herbalism and aromatherapy; I believed in angels, witchcraft, clairvoyants, crop circles, aliens at Nazca, giant ginger mariners spreading their knowledge to the Aztecs, the Incas and the Egyptians and that I was somehow personally blessed by the Holy Spirit with healing abilities. I was having my aura read at a hefty price and filtering the fluoride out of my water. I was choosing to have past life regressions instead of taking anti-depressants. I was taking my daily advice from tarot cards. I grew all my own veg and made my own herbal remedies. I was so freaking crunchy that I literally crumbled. It was only when I took control of those paranoid thoughts and fears about the world around me and became an objective critical thinker that I got well. It was when I stopped taking sugar pills for everything and started seeing medical professionals that I began to thrive physically and mentally.

If you think your child’s immune system is strong enough to fight off vaccine-preventable diseases, then it’s strong enough to fight off the tiny amounts of dead or weakened pathogens present in any of the vaccines. But not everyone around you is that strong, not everyone has a choice, not everyone can fight those illnesses, and not everyone can be vaccinated. If you have a healthy child, then your healthy child can cope with vaccines and can care about those unhealthy children who can’t. Teach your child compassion, and teach your child a sense of responsibility for those around them. Don’t teach your child to be self serving and scared of the world in which it lives and the people around him/her. And teach them to LOVE people with ASD or any other disability for that matter, not to label them as damaged.

And lastly but most importantly for me – knowingly exposing your child to childhood illnesses is cruel; even without complications these diseases aren’t exactly pleasant. I don’t know about you, but I don’t enjoy watching children suffer even with a cold or a hurt knee. If you’ve never had these illnesses you don’t know how awful they are–I do. Pain, discomfort, the inability to breathe or to eat or to swallow, fever and nightmares, itching all over your body so much that you can’t stand lying on bed sheets, losing so much weight you can’t walk properly, diarrhea that leaves you lying prostrate on the bathroom floor, the unpaid time off work for parents (and if you’re self employed that means NO INCOME), the quarantine, missing school, missing parties, the worry, the sleepless nights, the sweat, the tears and the blood, the midnight visits to A and E, sitting in a doctor’s waiting room on your own because no one will sit near you because they’re rightfully scared of those spots all over your kids face.

Those of you who have avoided childhood illnesses without vaccines are lucky. You couldn’t do it without us pro-vaxxers. Once the vaccination rates begin dropping, the less herd immunity will be able to protect your children. The more people you convert to your anti-vax stance, the quicker that luck will run out.

http://www.voicesforvaccines.org/growing-up-unvaccinated/

A good read, worth a share.
 
Measles and Rhubella are not illnesses to be toyed with. While staying in Ceres for 2 years while in primary school, two girls contracted Measles (probably from us other children). One girl recovered, although she had breathing difficulties for years and never developed properly as a teenager (her periods only started when she was 20) and the other developed pneumonia and spent two months in J F Jooste Hospital. When she came out, she weighed 38kg and was 90% deaf

Neither girl had been vaccinated as babies
 
Imagine contracting something polio that would destroy the child's life.
 
Seems like the author survived perfectly fine ;)

/troll off
 
the problem is these diseases have faded into history ... the new generation does not know how devastating they can be. I have not seen polio in real life for example.... all I can tell you is what is found in the textbooks.

That said the Drs and pharms that are experienced in managing these diseases are also a dead breed. If these diseases make a return there will be a lot of dead people and it will be too late to run for vaccines.

once a old disease gets a foothold its very difficult to stop it ... case point TB
 
the problem is these diseases have faded into history ... the new generation does not know how devastating they can be. I have not seen polio in real life for example.... all I can tell you is what is found in the textbooks.

That said the Drs and pharms that are experienced in managing these diseases are also a dead breed. If these diseases make a return there will be a lot of dead people and it will be too late to run for vaccines.

once a old disease gets a foothold its very difficult to stop it ... case point TB

Or don't be a dirty hippy and do the damn vaccines
 
...We don't live in the sparsely populated world of 2000+ years ago. Crowded cities and suburbs make sure these diseases have much greater impact.

Just pick a developing country with a large population, like India, and see how things taken for granted in the west affect people every day.

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When the English arrived in Virginia in the late 17th century, the population of the local Indian settlement decreased from 2000 to 80 in a 2 month period due to the germs brought along with the settlers. Smallpox and dysentry cleaned them out
 
Problem is EVERYONE needs to vaccinate for it to work, otherwise we might as well not bother at all.
 
Problem is EVERYONE needs to vaccinate for it to work, otherwise we might as well not bother at all.

I wouldn't go that far...
Not everyone is vaccinated today as we know, but is it not still worth it to have your kids done?
 
Its the unvaccinated kids that catch the disease. There was a case in rural France a few years back where a whole village had resisted the public health campaign and over 40% of the children contracted common diseases
 
I wouldn't go that far...
Not everyone is vaccinated today as we know, but is it not still worth it to have your kids done?

The only way to eradicate these diseases for good is to vaccinate everyone.

That way in 50 years time none of these diseases will exist any more, just like diseases we've all long forgotten and never experienced for ourselves.

So the dirty hippies aren't a danger to themselves, they are a danger to the future while thinking they are protecting the here and now.
 
If someone managed to get their hands on smallpox the younger generation will be fooked as they are not vaccinated against smallpox.
 
The anti-vaccination brigade are yet another example of how ideology can cloud common sense. There's a whole package of loopy ideas that infects these people, not just about vaccination. Their views on the environment are just as benighted, on both Left and Right.
 
For some reason some conservative mega churches are on a mission to push this agenda. In the past it used to be a handful of nature hippies. These days there is an organized agenda in some conservative churches to push an anti-vaccination agenda. Its annoying, I have a cousin who believes her church :/

The link you sent doesn't seem to suggest what you said, unless you were being deliberately dramatic...
"The concerns we have had are primarily with very young children who have family history of autism and with bundling too many immunizations at one time," she said.

Pearsons set up vaccination clinics on church property...

I do have to ask about your experience with your own family. Were your parents heavily involved in church? Do you have issues with them from growing up? Of course it's personal, no need to answer if you don't want to... I'm not trying to get personal, just curious.
 
The link you sent doesn't seem to suggest what you said, unless you were being deliberately dramatic...

What are you talking about?

"Measles was declared eliminated in the U.S. more than a decade ago. But in recent years, the highly infectious disease has cropped up in communities with low vaccination rates, most recently in North Texas.

There, 21 people — the majority of whom have not been immunized — have gotten the disease, which began at a vaccine-skeptical megachurch
."

If you could be more clear about what you are specifically talking about I can understand what you mean.


I do have to ask about your experience with your own family. Were your parents heavily involved in church? Do you have issues with them from growing up? Of course it's personal, no need to answer if you don't want to... I'm not trying to get personal, just curious.

You sound like a scientologist now. They believe that if you say anything critical about scientology its because you are hurt/broken.
 

After Jan Van Riebeck's arrival at the Cape it was mostly smallpox and measles that wiped out the indigenous population.

The elimination of smallpox in 1977 should be enough to convince even the most hardened deniers, although it won't.

Polio was almost eradicated a few years ago; and would have been but for being sabotaged by a few Muslim terrorists in Nigeria and Asia who prevented people from being vaccinated and assisted the disease's comeback.
 
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