Gun proposition 'ridiculous'

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Gun proposition 'ridiculous'

Craig Lewis, News24 User It's absolutely ludicrous! This is my opinion of the proposition by Safety and Security Minister Charles Nqakula to disallow South African citizens to purchase any form of self-defence weapon.

I really don't understand the reasoning behind the decision and I suspect there really was very little thinking that went into it at all.

This is yet another example of a high profile leader opening his or her mouth before really thinking of the consequences or inevitable response from the public.

Examples that spring to mind immediately are Minister of Sport and Recreation Mankenkisi Stofile stating at the end of last year that quotas should no longer be applied in sport, Minister of Health, Manto Tshabalala-Msimang's infamous beetroot comments and current ANC president Jacob Zuma's shower comment during his rape trial.

All these comments drew much criticism as they really made no sense at all and caused uproar amongst the general public who felt that their leaders should really take greater consideration before speaking.

Yet once again, Nqakula has proven that our leaders are often focused on impractical methods of policy making instead of really finding appropriate methods of allaying the concerns of the public.

For many, having a weapon on hand at home or in the car is a real source of comfort in this country, where crime is a serious problem. For thousands of women, having pepper spray tucked away in their handbag provides them with some kind of chance at defending themselves when coming face to face with a hijacker or rapist.

So my plea to Nqakula is: Stop taking away the general public's only comfort in this scary world and rather take time to find ways of protecting them because then we might not actually mind having a law of this nature coming into effect.
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This is a human rights violation... They're taking away my right to protect my family.

I wish the damn crims would start raping, torturing and killing the ANC MPs.... let them feel what the normal South African's go through.
 
so IOW, criminals can walk the streets with guns, but we cannot use the same weapons to defend ourselves.
 
It's not just weapons to protect yourself, if you look at the proposed act it includes even paintball guns and pellet guns, and crossbows that can't be taken into any public area including roads.

Now will it be illegal for me to take my paintball gun to the play paintball ?
 
xtermin8or said:
Now will it be illegal for me to take my paintball gun to the play paintball ?
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Even worse, the paintball court is a public place (right?), so no using paintball guns on paintball courts.

Can't use your pocketknife to cut your apple or biltong at your favourite sports event as well.
 
Nod said:
Even worse, the paintball court is a public place (right?), so no using paintball guns on paintball courts.

Can't use your pocketknife to cut your apple or biltong at your favourite sports event as well.
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I suppose if it is privately owned, as most of them are, it can be considered private, can't it, I just think the list goes too far - I'm going to try and find it
 
Read the law again, you can use the weapons for legal sports, recreation or entertainment, so I guess I'm okay, what a relief :D

FYI here is the list

Projectile discharging devices which are designed to discharge a
projectile by means of compressed gas, compressed air or a spring,
electrically or manually and whish is likely to cause serious bodily injury
if used to commit an assault, including but not limited to BB guns,
airsoft guns, bows and arrows, spear-guns, blowpipes and darts,
hunting slings, slingshots and catapults.
Sword;
Bayonet;
Baton;
Spear or assegai;
Panga;
Cattle prod;
Flick knife;
Dagger;
Knuckle knife;
Trench knife;
Throwing blade;
Non-metal or ceramic knife;
Tonfa;
Throwing star;
Any knife other than knifes mentioned above, the blade of which
exceeds 10 centimetres; or
Any other article, which is not a firearm, and which is made or modified
to be used -
(a) to injure or disable a person;
(b) to cause a person to fear that someone will be injured or
disabled by that use; or
(c) for attack or defence in the practice of a martial sport, art or
similar discipline.
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NO....NO.....don't complain.....didn't you people realise what you were voting for when you voted yes in 92 ????
 
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I don't see a problem with this. Just get a blackmarket gun and bury the body if you happen to shoot an intruder. :D
 
Nocturnity said:
I don't see a problem with this. Just get a blackmarket gun and bury the body if you happen to shoot an intruder. :D
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Thats probably what I would do anyway... I'm not going through the hassel of court/jail over some piece of **** murderer/thief/rapist in my house.
 
The guy who takes my firearm off me should expect to give me a receipt for the bullet he will receive first.
 
I am all for a gun free and weapon free country, but this is not a possibility.
The law want to prevent people carrying around these weapons in public places, the trouble is this will further disarm the already defenseless public and the criminals will have a field day.

The government cannot protect you, you have to be able to try and do it yourself,they cannot deny you that.

The Minister needs to control his own weapons, those in the Police and Metro forces, the SADF. These weapons are regularly being used to commit crimes. I am surprised victims have not sued him because of this.
 
Ummm...I just realized something: Paper cuts qualify as an injury. Now, by the above mentioned terms, paper should then be banned in public as it may cause someone to fear injury. Cars as well. In fact, anything hard can be used as a weapon, actually. IQ tests for those in charge! I don't want morons like these running the country I live in.
 
I guess game hunting will also be phased out.

The whole idea behind these ridiculous laws is that the people are more helpless, and that government can control them more and interfere more in the people's lives.
 
Cops with guns and battons scare me. Can I get them to arrest themselves?
 
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