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Apple has dramatically improved on the Windows-on-a-Mac experience over emulation-based solutions. After completing Boot Camp, Windows XP runs extremely fast on the Mac with very few quirks or issues -- so fast and well, in fact, that the notion of having your cake and eating it too comes to mind. That decades-old fork in the road between being forced to choose either the Mac for its superior design or Windows for its wealth of available software has disappeared. With a recent-model Mac, a large hard-drive -- and for the cost of a full-install version of Windows XP -- you can have both operating systems on the same computer — the best of both worlds.
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The first thing you'll notice about running Windows XP on an Intel-based Macintosh is how very fast it is. This is the way Windows XP was meant to perform.
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tibby.dude said:
Mark my words ... Apple is going to ditch OS X eventually.
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In favour of Xp or Vista? Not likely. Perhaps they'll bundle an OEM but they're already seeding 10.5 to testers AFAIK.

Besides - with OsX out of the picture where would Microsoft get all their innovative ideas? :rolleyes:
 
martin said:
Very doubtful. If anything Apple may one day allow OS X to run on regular PC's.
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I dont think so - they're primarily a hardware company.
 
bwana : Not so. That is what Iger said. Jobs dissagreed with him completely (Even saying that Apple and Next were the only true software companies around)

tibby : Their software is what creates an Apple Mac. Without it, it is exactly the same as Dell, HP, etc. They would not be able to charge a premium, and profits would drop dramatically (Unless they somehow increased their market share at the same time)
 
JStrike said:
tibby : Their software is what creates an Apple Mac. Without it, it is exactly the same as Dell, HP, etc. They would not be able to charge a premium, and profits would drop dramatically (Unless they somehow increased their market share at the same time)
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I see no reason why they can't "host" their Aqua UI on top of XP.
iTunes don't look that different to me between the two platforms.

Apple makes their money on their hardware and the software they give away for nearly free to do so ($79 for iLife is a giveaway) ... their stuff is certainly much better looking and engineered than the generic black plastic crap from Dell and others.

Remember they don't even build their own stuff anymore ... the motherboard is made by Intel for them in Hong Kong and the box is all put together by Asus in Taiwan .... no rocket science there.

Apple strength is their brilliant above average industrial design and the brand ... people bought the more expensive iPod's by the zillions rather than cheaper more fully featured Creative and other generic mp3 players.
 
Apple needs to keep a close eye on Chinese quality control. Now that they have gone Intel, users will demand hardware that does not have cheap unreliable components (Mat****a superdrive for instance) inside for the premium they are paying. And here we pay R5000 more than Europe for some!
 
JStrike said:
bwana : Not so. That is what Iger said. Jobs dissagreed with him completely (Even saying that Apple and Next were the only true software companies around)
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Apple and Next? When was this - back in the 90's? Lets face it - Jobs changes his mind - a lot. Not sure of the Iger/Jobs connection apart from Disney. From all reports they're very like minded comrades.
 
Let's face it: Apple exclusivity is over. The whole MAC w/OSX is dead. And Mr Jobs knows that as seen by switching over to Intel processors and Boot Camp. The next stage it to indeed allow OSX on Windows machines.

Bwana 10: Ironic to think MACS are becoming more like PC's to be successful isn't it ;)
 
tibby.dude : The fact that they use generic pc components from Asia makes their software even more important. It is the only thing left that differentiates an Apple Mac from a Sony Vaio

bwana : Not sure why I said Iger. I meant the dude that ran apple in the '90s - Scully

Dominic Rooney : OSX on PC's? I think this is entirely probable. But not in the immediate future. Maybe in a year or two

I still stand by what I said. I dont think Apple will ever drop OSX in favour of Windows. But that is just an opinion
 
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OSX is definitely the distinguishing attraction for Apple enthusiasts but I dont think they would sell many units if it were available on other PCs. Would you have a Sony VIO with OSX or a MacbookPRO with nobbled single layer only superdrive and the likelihood of a serious whine problem?
 
I gotta agree with JStrike. The only thing differentiating a Mac from a PC now is their SW.

They will soon realise that it is easier to just make a few DVD's with MacOs on it, since demand for actual Macs is going to fall drastically, as now normal users will be able to directly compare prices for equivalent systems.

Apple will probably still keep the design side of their business running, since that is a major selling point. I rate they will still make cases and the like. And definitly other CE devices.
 
lol - I've lost track of who's saying what and why :)
mic_y said:
I gotta agree with JStrike. The only thing differentiating a Mac from a PC now is their SW.
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With bootcamp out the only thing differentiating a mac from a generic pc is build quality and that a PC still cant run osx. All this leads to higher macintel sales.
 
Another article in the same vein.
Run Windows and Mac OS Both at Once
David Pogue
Back in the real world, though, there was plenty of interest. Lots of people are tempted by the Mac's sleek looks and essentially virus-free operating system — but worry about leaving Windows behind entirely. Others would find happiness with Apple's superb music, photo and movie-making programs — but have jobs that rely on Microsoft Access, Outlook or some other piece of Windows corporate-ware.
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bwana v.10 said:
I dont think so - they're primarily a hardware company.
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If they're primarily a hardware company (with which I disagree) then they're doing a far better job at software than most software companies.
 
martin said:
If they're primarily a hardware company (with which I disagree) then they're doing a far better job at software than most software companies.
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I've never said they dont make anything but the best software :)
 
Raithlin : Those are bad, unstable, buggy hacks of old versions of OSX
 
WatchDog said:
Apple needs to keep a close eye on Chinese quality control. Now that they have gone Intel, users will demand hardware that does not have cheap unreliable components (Mat****a superdrive for instance) inside for the premium they are paying.
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I understand your point, but not your example. The Mat****a superdrive is a Japanese component made by Matsu****a (Panasonic/JVC) - AFAIK the same company that supplies DVD writers for Sony, HP and Lenovo notebooks.
 
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