Hardcore virus!

[PeterCH]

From working with with hundreds of Bitdefender installs I have felt and experience what it does first hand on many different levels. From schools to personal computers .. Ive had to trouble shoot it. Every single one of the guys I worked with in the industry knows the crud it can cause or the errors that pop up around it. Its honestly terrible.

Why is it so popular? Simply put.. its where sales and technical dont come together. We hated our sales people for selling BitDefender as we knew the kind of support we had to do afterwards. Sales sold it because out of all the AV`s out there.. it has the highest markups for them. Thats why its pushed so strongly on the market.

I know it works for some people just like some people will swear by Nortons... but I wouldnt install it on my system.

Ok, fine. I haven't had issues with BD myself, it runs fast on my C2D ULV 1.6GHz machine and ran fast on my Pentium M 2.0 as well. I've had Kaspersky mess up MS Office 2007 though at a friend's place and I've had Spybot make FireFox update issues but other than that BitDefender has picked up viruses on USB sticks and occasionally on websites. BD is also pretty cheap, it cost R200 odd for a 3 user home license.

Are your issues more with support for multiple user/network environments or more with missed viruses?

 

[d7e7r7]

this virus sounds pretty simlilar to virut...

I got "Win32/Virut" a while back

Here is the software to remove it

http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Win32-Virut-Remover-Download-106366.html

This did work 100% for me. But I'm not sure if Vitro is the same?

i also had it, was on vista, couldn't fix it, gave up, running a windows xp slave, waiting to get a 1tb ext drive so i can back that drive up and install win7...

 

[w1z4rd]

Ok, fine. I haven't had issues with BD myself, it runs fast on my C2D ULV 1.6GHz machine and ran fast on my Pentium M 2.0 as well. I've had Kaspersky mess up MS Office 2007 though at a friend's place and I've had Spybot make FireFox update issues but other than that BitDefender has picked up viruses on USB sticks and occasionally on websites. BD is also pretty cheap, it cost R200 odd for a 3 user home license.

Ive never personally tried or worked with Kaspersky so I cant offer an opinion on it. Ill add your bad experience to my knowledge base.

Are your issues more with support for multiple user/network environments or more with missed viruses?

Both.

It took them foreeeever to stop those silly USB virus`s. Im glad to see its sorted in the latest version.

 

[d7e7r7]

Ive never personally tried or worked with Kaspersky so I cant offer an opinion on it. Ill add your bad experience to my knowledge base.

I use KIS 2010, havent had any problems, got it on my netbook and pc...

 

[|tera|]

We use Kaspersky Business Space on more than 100 clients at work. We made the switch from Bitdefender client security earlier this year.

I fully agree with Wizard. Bitdefender is the most bloated piece of software I have ever encounter, it beats Norton is terms of sucking and I've got a list longer than a A4 page with problems it gave us in a time frame of a year.

We currently use Kaspersky Workstation MP4 on our standard workstations, as well as Server Enterprise and Standard Server editions.

The only thing that causes pc's to slow down in the latest version is a setting called "self defense" which allows Kaspersky to defend itself from malicious programs which are remotely executed. It took me less than 5 minutes to remove it from the policy settings and quite a few of our users phoned me straight away to tell me how fast their computers perform.

Kaspersky is King on reporting. It detected and removed malware/viruses from computers which had Bitdefender installed previously and successfully removed it.

Bitdefender policies take roughly more than an hour to propagate to client computers, Kaspersky is near instant.

We don't even use NetSend on our network anymore as we use the Message Task in Kaspersky, which means we can give a detailed message to our users and even add a link for reference should it be required.

All in all, we have been running Kaspersky for just under a month and so far it's exceeded my expectations tremendously.

Bitdefender will die a slow death, I'm certain of it.

 

[PeterCH]

I'm glad it works. Kaspersky is run by ex-Russian guys, BitDefender by ex-Romanians, I tend to trust the latter far more and Eugene Kaspersky has been a bit vocal on some issues recently - I did not like it. In the past guys like Yuval Tal and Uzi Appel from Israel were the AV experts - with McAfee, Dr Solomon's, Turbo Antivirus and other products - now it seems that the Russians are catching up. Who knows.... still recently when BD found a virus on a relative's McAfee protected system via a USB stick, I scanned it with the Kaspersky Boot CD and it only found the same virus. I could have hidden viruses of my own I guess but my Comodo FP does not warn me of strange behaviours, MWEB has not warned me of outgoing emails filled with virus attachments and MalwareBytes has not found anything either.

I read here that BD beat Kaspersky yet again:
http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/bitdefender-review.html

I guess it depends which site you read, these reviews conflict with each other.

 

[matt loves telkom]

so these LIVE boot cds? how often do you have to update them or download the new image.

 

[I am Penguin]

I'm glad it works. Kaspersky is run by ex-Russian guys, BitDefender by ex-Romanians, I tend to trust the latter far more and Eugene Kaspersky has been a bit vocal on some issues recently - I did not like it. In the past guys like Yuval Tal and Uzi Appel from Israel were the AV experts - with McAfee, Dr Solomon's, Turbo Antivirus and other products - now it seems that the Russians are catching up. Who knows.... still recently when BD found a virus on a relative's McAfee protected system via a USB stick, I scanned it with the Kaspersky Boot CD and it only found the same virus. I could have hidden viruses of my own I guess but my Comodo FP does not warn me of strange behaviours, MWEB has not warned me of outgoing emails filled with virus attachments and MalwareBytes has not found anything either.

I read here that BD beat Kaspersky yet again:
http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/bitdefender-review.html

I guess it depends which site you read, these reviews conflict with each other.

The the eX-ses change their nationalities or origins?
Try Essentials, works for me.

I will give Kapersky free a try again.

 

[I am Penguin]

so these LIVE boot cds? how often do you have to update them or download the new image.

Only when the virus updates are done. I use Windows XP miniPE.XT.v2k5.09.xx

Just search for the latest update. Ok, seems to me the name changed.


The latest seems to be

MultiBoot EmergencyCD 24 Jul 2oo9 [DigiWiz & PlaNed]

MultiBootable ISO For troubleshooting and solving most computer problems. Including the tools restore and repair the PC the best current. Comparable to HawkPE. Created by DigiWiz and PlaNed.

Boot Menu:
* miniPE v2k5.o9.o3 ( 24 July 2oo9 )
* Hiren's BootCD 9.9
* QuickTech Pro
* CheckIt 7.1 Pro - test, benchmark hardware
* SpinRite 6.0 HD Maintenance & Recovery Tool
* OnTrack Data Advizor 5.oo
* OnTrack EasyRecovery 6.10
* Acronis Disk Director Server 1o.o.2169
* Acronis True Image Echo Server with UR 9.7.8344
* Active BootDisk 2.1o
* HDD Regenerator 1.71
* EuroSoft PC-Check 6.o5
* Memtest86+ 2.11

http://rapidshare.com/files/262337968/em3rg3ncy_multib00t_24jul2oo9.part6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/262321258/em3rg3ncy_multib00t_24jul2oo9.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/262304880/em3rg3ncy_multib00t_24jul2oo9.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/262287725/em3rg3ncy_multib00t_24jul2oo9.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/262270007/em3rg3ncy_multib00t_24jul2oo9.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/262251247/em3rg3ncy_multib00t_24jul2oo9.part1.rar

 

[Kloofvreter]

Whatever the virus, be sure that Symantec Endpoint Protection will NOT help.

 

[matt loves telkom]

Only when the virus updates are done. I use Windows XP miniPE.XT.v2k5.09.xx

Just search for the latest update. Ok, seems to me the name changed.


The latest seems to be

MultiBoot EmergencyCD 24 Jul 2oo9 [DigiWiz & PlaNed]



http://rapidshare.com/files/262337968/em3rg3ncy_multib00t_24jul2oo9.part6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/262321258/em3rg3ncy_multib00t_24jul2oo9.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/262304880/em3rg3ncy_multib00t_24jul2oo9.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/262287725/em3rg3ncy_multib00t_24jul2oo9.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/262270007/em3rg3ncy_multib00t_24jul2oo9.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/262251247/em3rg3ncy_multib00t_24jul2oo9.part1.rar

cheers...rapidsh!!t is useless though
but i will try some other link ..thanks

 

[MeNeZ]

Turn off system restore, clear temp files and run msconfig...stop any weird things in the startup section from starting up.
Rename combofix and try run it in safe mode. Sometimes combofix takes a LOOONG time to start, leave it for like 15mins. It may look like its been stopped, keep an eye on it in the taskman

 

[PeterCH]

The the eX-ses change their nationalities or origins?
Try Essentials, works for me.

I will give Kapersky free a try again.

I know that the Kaspersky crew now works in the States. That makes them ex.

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

I guess, but new people tend to read these threads or find them via google.

Ideally if you're worried about security, use a Mac or a Linux system. No wild viruses on Mac and probably not on Linux either.

I think lots of people will actually prefer working with an infected than flailing helplessly around in new OS, and honestly, it is a bit extreme, like recommending castration in cure a STD.