Has the USA changed it's ways?

mercurial said:
i think the point that we're trying to make is that if the USA feels so strongly about helping other countries, why have they sat back and watched Mugabe become Saddam 2.0? it indicates that they only intervene when it will benefit them and not because they actually care about genuinely helping others.

i agree with the comment about the UN.
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IMO I'd far rather the U.N develop a backbone and do what it's supposed to. Unfortunately it's foundations are deeply flawed. The U.N should have gone into Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact U.N should be their now regardless of their position on the invasion.

Unfortunately only the U.S and U.K steped up to the plate. To a lesser extent countries like Canada, Netherlands and Poland amongst others. The likes of France, Germany and Sweden have been nothing short of disgraceful IMO.
 
alanf85 said:
The U.N should have gone into Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact U.N should be their now regardless of their position on the invasion.

Unfortunately only the U.S and U.K steped up to the plate. To a lesser extent countries like Canada, Netherlands and Poland amongst others. The likes of France, Germany and Sweden have been nothing short of disgraceful IMO.
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agreed, however, since they caused the mess, it was only fair that they attempted to clean it up.
 
mercurial said:
agreed, however, since they caused the mess, it was only fair that they attempted to clean it up.
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Saddam caused the mess :rolleyes: Unless you blame the U.S for the crimes of the Soviets as well:o

So mercurial what must the U.S do about Zim to placate you?
 
mercurial said:
what exactly do you mean by "the USA way of life"?
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If you belong to alantjie's party:

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Typically, Republicans organize in units called "families", and attend each other's "parties", which consist of women chatting over Peach Schnapps and snorting coke while slaving over ordering the servants around, and the men getting tweaked on meth and watching Sodomy Street. It is not uncommon for Republican Children to read fictitious tales such as Sesame Street - Color Me Mine, Barney's Weather Book, and the Holy Bible: Revised Neocon Edition.

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Republican daily life revolves around the office and church. The average republican will usually wake up at six in the morning and report to work by eight, even if work is only a 5 minute walk from home. Many believe it has something to do with their internal sonar, called "gaydar", but experiments to confirm this have been mixed, with a correlation rate between 47.736% and 50.432%. Anyway, after 9 hours of constantly abusing mexicans, teenagers and losers, the republican becomes tired. Unless of course, the said republican is a loser, then it is coming home from being abused for 10 hours. At any rate, the republican was stuffing its face all day. After a hard day of yelling and eating, the republican packs up the children and goes to church. At church, the republican speaks in tongues, shaves its pubes and handles snakes while the children are taught to forget everything they learned in science class, unless that knowledge is important in weapons making.
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alanf85 said:
Saddam caused the mess :rolleyes: Unless you blame the U.S for the crimes of the Soviets as well:o

So mercurial what must the U.S do about Zim to placate you?
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they went in and bombed the country to sh1ts. that's the mess i'm referring to. cleaning up that is what i'm talking about. sure the country was a mess, but a different one. all countries have their negatives. our country is a mess too. not as messed up as Iraq maybe, but a mess nontheless.

as for your question, i do not know, but sitting back and doing nothing is the worst thing anyone can do. perhaps a verbal warning and if that fails, go in and forcefully remove him by all means necessary. remove him and his followers/those who protect him. no need to bomb innocent civilians. in this case, i am endorsing violence cos it seems as if there is no other way to peacefully remove him. mugabe is a vile man who has murdered innocent thousands, who has overstayed his visit.
 
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mercurial said:
as for your question, i do not know, but sitting back and doing nothing is the worst thing anyone can do. perhaps a verbal warning and if that fails, go in and forcefully remove him by all means necessary. in this case, i am endorsing violence cos it seems as if there is no other way to peacefully remove him. mugabe is a vile man who has murdered innocent thousands, who has overstayed his visit.
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Eh yeah the U.S is pretty tied up at the moment. They don't have the resources or manpower to invade Zim. Maybe you should ask France :D

So you're basically asking for impossible there.
 
alanf85 said:
Eh yeah the U.S is pretty tied up at the moment. They don't have the resources or manpower to invade Zim. Maybe you should ask France :D
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yeah they are tied up unfortunately. but this in itself is an eye-opener for all - why is no one else doing anything about mugabe?
 
mercurial said:
yeah they are tied up unfortunately. but this in itself is an eye-opener for all - why is no one else doing anything about mugabe?
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Well they do have sanctions imposed. China is supporting him. If the U.S did what some here want the very same China will move into the power vacuum. :sick:

Still the U.N should move in FFS.
 
Watch 'The Hunting Party' and you'll see the US history of not going after war masters and dictators for their own pleasure. I wouldn't even be surprised if Mugabe is being funded by the US.
 
alanf85 said:
Well they do have sanctions imposed. China is supporting him. If the U.S did what some here want the very same China will move into the power vacuum. :sick:

Still the U.N should move in FFS.
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The UN is made up of a large number of international fags. Their a$$es are always to sore from bending over to the US gov to be able to do anything ;)
 
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