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This site has been great for I at last realise I am not the only one tearing my hair out over the current state of things.

It doesn’t get any better when a friend in the UK tells me he’s paying R750 p/m for a package including Sky (think DSTV x20), and a 1mbps connection. Unlimited local calls are also included.

It is up to the government to shape things. They fail on every count. We have a health minister whose suggested remedy for HIV is some kind of herbal garlic solution, the transport department extends the taxi conversion deadline by five years thereby unleashing continued mayhem on our roads and a president who seems to live in his plane. Not even Bush’s poodle Blair has a plane! Do we really think they give a damn about overpricing or genuine deregulation and competition for Telkom?

The bottom line is nothing is going to change quickly. Accept it or vacate your plot and hoof overseas. By the time it does change, unfortunately it will be too late.
 
yup

and the previous health minister is now minister of foreign relations? wtf?

ANYWAY

moving isn't the only solution, go cast your damn vote! :)


its my plan to try and live in at least 3 other countries for more than 2 years at a time to determine for myself, if south africa is THAT bad (which I don't think it is, but I'll compare apples with apples) [xx(]
 
If someone started to bomb the telkom exchanges, would that force things to change or not?

But maybe you right, moving to a first world country is something to consider.

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lets try not to look like a terrorist organisation here please [:)]

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This site has been great for I at last realise I am not the only one tearing my hair out over the current state of things.

It doesn’t get any better when a friend in the UK tells me he’s paying R750 p/m for a package including Sky (think DSTV x20), and a 1mbps connection. Unlimited local calls are also included.

It is up to the government to shape things. They fail on every count. We have a health minister whose suggested remedy for HIV is some kind of herbal garlic solution, the transport department extends the taxi conversion deadline by five years thereby unleashing continued mayhem on our roads and a president who seems to live in his plane. Not even Bush’s poodle Blair has a plane! Do we really think they give a damn about overpricing or genuine deregulation and competition for Telkom?

The bottom line is nothing is going to change quickly. Accept it or vacate your plot and hoof overseas. By the time it does change, unfortunately it will be too late.
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Definitely ain't that bad. Without appearing like an apologist for the government (and our terrible state of telecoms not withstanding)

- the rand was the best performing currency against the US$ in 2002, and the second best in 2003 (ir gained over 25% against the $ in 2003 alone!)
- interest rates are at their lowest level in decades
- producer price inflation is at it's lowest level in more than 30 years
- more people have access to fresh running water and telephones than at any other point in the countries history

There's a lot that can still be done better, of course, but "doom-and-gloom", no way. The glass is definitely half-full i.m.o.
 
Real bummer the state of affairs we are having to deal with. During the day time when I need to do something on an international site or in the event where I really have to use SSH to a server in the US I'm also at the hair pulling out point. Soooooo slooooooooow and I'm usually in a hurry.. You must try doing something in a hurry on ADSL internationally during office hours. It will make you jump and hump with joy.

I pity people that need to do a lot of work on ADSL on international sites in office hours. I get the idea small business is jumping at the idea of ADSL.. pity it's so pathetic during office hours.

A sturdy dose of patience and hectic perseverence needed to work during the daytime on ADSL. Luckilly I don't have to work with ADSL during the day... phew....

Then I won't start talking about the 3gig cap situation.
 
We could never stop complaining...

So...I just want to know from everyone their future predictions...

1.How long do you think it will take for telkom to bring the prices down or introduce VDSL? ( Please don't tell me "never" even if you want to :P )

2. How long do you think it will take for any other major corporations to break telkom's monopoly and bring the SA communication technology to world standards?

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There is little wrong with South Africa if:
(a) you have the money
<b>and</b>
(b) you are prepared to pay
 
There is a lot wrong with South Africa when :

Over 90% of the people do not have the money.

Over 85% are unable to pay for even basic telephony.

Only 8000 - 9000 people have adsl.

Businesses must pay some R40 000.00 per month for 1MB leased line.

Telkom installs some 400 000 new lines and some 320 000 are cut off.

We get an SNO who says that they will make no impact for some years.

One cannot browse the internet during the day at better than 56K modem speeds because the monopoly does not provide the bandwidth capacity.

Telkom prices increase annually and world-wide prices are decreasing.


I could go on .............[}:)]
 
Microfast, read my post again... (which was more in reply to sybawoods and plug)
Money being no problem and the willingness to spend it, all your problems are solved (except for personal relationships and your health).

Now if you were earning say R50,000 per month[:o)], would you really bother if your home ADSL cost you R1000 or R2000?[:p]
If you were a business which spent R1m per month on connectivity (and your competitors had to do similar), wouldn't you just build that into the cost of your service or product?

Money gives you choices.
The choice to move from 56kbps <b>to</b> ISDN.
The choice to have ISDN <b>and</b> ADSL.
The choice to have ADSL <b>and</b> Sentech wireless.

Money, Money, Money
Must be funny
In a rich man's world

As for other people's problems, that is off the topic. I am referring to each individual's perspective.
 
The acid test for any developing nation is western companies and their foreign investment. Look at SA and there is none. It is actually expensive to do business here.

People here also have careers to consider. By staying are you getting the technological advancement and exposure to the bright new concepts out there? It’s the old interview chestnut. Just where do you see yourself (or South Africa for that matter) in five years time?

Still paying too much? Waiting for Telkom and the SNO to make a competition out of it? It is a big question.

Don’t get me wrong, I love SA. I offer constructive criticism because things could and should be better.
 
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