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D3x!
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Wow I heard that stuff was hectic, thought you were taking some pure form of it to cause this. Very scary that something from a shop can have these crazy effects without being scheduled..
How long were you on it for it to affect you so badly, and what symptoms did you have that lead to you being diagnosed?
HavocXphere
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Did you at least fkin google it this time before munching it?
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I am curious, how can a test tell what caused it?
Well it started with the palpitations. I went to the doctor and did some tests and he said it was fine. (f***ing b*stard)
Then only recently I felt chest pains when I sat at certain positions. So I decided to go to another doctor ( 1 week ago ). I was told it should be fine. My mom didn't like the results, so I went to a hospitals cardiologist section.
They then did other tests. This is when they found it was enlarged. + the palpitations.
So they took a lot of my blood just before I left. I am now going in for a slice 64 or something, which apparently can tell what caused it. ( virus or stimulants, etc) as well as the bloodtests.
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I only took DMMA ( stimulant ) Twice.
Did 2 weeks of clen.
I was around 16 when I used clen ( didnt get to a very high dosage ) and the stimulants at 17.
And then the usual coffee, mass gainers, creatine, etc.
As for the beta-blockers, I did, but the cardiologist prescribed them to me.
Then only recently I felt chest pains when I sat at certain positions. So I decided to go to another doctor ( 1 week ago ). I was told it should be fine. My mom didn't like the results, so I went to a hospitals cardiologist section.
They then did other tests. This is when they found it was enlarged. + the palpitations.
So they took a lot of my blood just before I left. I am now going in for a slice 64 or something, which apparently can tell what caused it. ( virus or stimulants, etc) as well as the bloodtests.
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I only took DMMA ( stimulant ) Twice.
Did 2 weeks of clen.
I was around 16 when I used clen ( didnt get to a very high dosage ) and the stimulants at 17.
And then the usual coffee, mass gainers, creatine, etc.
As for the beta-blockers, I did, but the cardiologist prescribed them to me.
Grant
Honorary Master
there are multiple causes and respective tests to evaluate the the probability of the cause.
for example anemia or sickle cell anemia is caused by low red blood cell count. heart rate will increase to compensate the lower delivery of oxygen bearing red blood cells - blood test will usually reveal this
thyroid disorder - more specialized test carried out by endocrinologist
doppler ultrasound along with bloodwork could establish congenital defect
hypertension is evaluated by various means
etc etc
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HavocXphere
Honorary Master
Something can be quite safe for 99 people and cause the 100th to drop dead...much like 99 people get stung by a bee and the 100th is allergic and drops. People think they can follow the recommended dosage & be cool...doesn't work like that.
I got scheduled stuff from a doc twice that nearly killed me. Thats stuff that went through years of medical trials and got applied under medical supervision to a healthy patient. Thats from a registered doc...as for what these unregulated "supplement" supplier put into their product...yeah no...got burned hard enough by the actual doctors never mind the pretend doctors.
Grant
Honorary Master
cat scan
Grant
Honorary Master
your mom made the right call - too few ppl seek a second or 3rd opinion.
if an invasive procedure is recommended get 3 opinions prior to undergoing the procedure
Yo guys, was diagnosed with heart enlargement and irregular heart beat (18 yo).
Going for more tests soon to find the cause/ treatment.
Was wondering if anyone has had the same before? And how long was recovery, etc.
Doc said I might not be able to gym for about 6 months and I really don't know what ill do
No more stimulants EVER
Clen is the direct cause there my friend.
Suggest you read up on it and the combination of other enhancements you took with it. Bioscience will kill you. If you want to use illegal substances then make very sure you get professional advice from a doctor.
http://muscletalk.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=205
Reps4Jesus, Safe lifting, Curls for the girls all that stuff good luck with your appointment hopefully it's not too much damage yet and heart necrosis hasn't settled in yet.
It was so long ago though. I think I got up to 160mcg and didn't get any sides. (except that dry pump). Was going to use ECA this cut. My word that would have been bad lol
Sensorei
Executive Member
Don't listen to this nonsense. Yes of course clen and DMAA can be dangerous and even kill you, but you hardly touched them. 2 weeks of moderate clen is not going to do any long term damage to anybody unless you are megadosing and have a congenital heart defect or pre-existing condition. Seriously people get some perspective. If this was the case every 2nd bodybuilder out there would be dead or dying.
I'm not going to entertain you. #trollavoidance
Yes that happens too. What were you prescribed that was wrong for you?