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BlackStatic said:
Ban Sony from SA, they can go be racist somewhere else. @Jan

Xbox and Valve have made a lot of investments in Africa through the years, servers, presence etc, these clowns have no business being here.

Wait till the EFF hears about this, lmao.

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Yeah, it could be in the Electronic Frontier Foundation's interest, but I don't think they will consider it a civil liberty to promote.

It has more to do with nations not having regulations open to Sony's participation. Governments can restrict commercial activities. This is also why there are geo-restrictions, and not all accommodative EULAs. Laws and policies are a tricky business to navigate.

What is happening is sad to see. Sony and Arrowhead should be more transparent. Though restrictions can be circumvented with a VPN, Sony should provide access to those who can't access PSN locally due to reasons. Let's not ignore that this started with privacy concerns, Sony has been breached multiple times, and users want to be more secure.

All in all, Sony needs a valid motivation. The please the shareholders, having higher numbers, narrative is activist talk. They already have plus 120 million users on the PlayStation Network. This in my opinion has more to do with Sony wanting users linked to their ecosystem, which will please shareholders, but it is an enabler to allow commercial activities. Some even call it a metaverse...

In the digital era, companies want to lock you in, retain you in a closed ecosystem. You can put things in, but you can't take things out, neither own it, mind you.

And, yes, I know what you typed, and no, Malema is not big enough to extort Sony.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Yeah, it could be in the Electronic Frontier Foundation's interest, but I don't think they will consider it a civil liberty to promote.

It has more to do with nations not having regulations open to Sony's participation. Governments can restrict commercial activities. This is also why there are geo-restrictions, and not all accommodative EULAs. Laws and policies are a tricky business to navigate.

What is happening is sad to see. Sony and Arrowhead should be more transparent. Though restrictions can be circumvented with a VPN, Sony should provide access to those who can't access PSN locally due to reasons. Let's not ignore that this started with privacy concerns, Sony has been breached multiple times, and users want to be more secure.

All in all, Sony needs a valid motivation. The please the shareholders, having higher numbers, narrative is activist talk. They already have plus 120 million users on the PlayStation Network. This in my opinion has more to do with Sony wanting users linked to their ecosystem, which will please shareholders, but it is an enabler to allow commercial activities. Some even call it a metaverse...

In the digital era, companies want to lock you in, retain you in a closed ecosystem. You can put things in, but you can't take things out, neither own it, mind you.

And, yes, I know what you typed, and no, Malema is not big enough to extort Sony.
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Of course, but who doesn't love a bit of drama every now and then, lol.

This is a pretty crazy policy, though, it really does look bad when you map it out. Namibia, Botswana, seriously?

I support the idea of you want to business in Africa you must support Africa, there's a lot of these games companies in the business of taking and not giving, local servers etc.
 
RedViking said:
Surely this will result in financial loss. Why would they do this? It is a freaking game.
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Such a strange decision, they'll catch so much kak for this.

That map is extremely ugly too, Sony is going to catch a load of heat, amazing.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
The studio's CEO:



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Block those countries from being able to review the game!!!! Vivaa!
 
Well they backtracked pretty quickly. The biggest issue was disabling it early on, if they (Arrowhead) just kept it mandatory this would not even be a discussion.

If anything this should light a fire under Sony's ass to revamp their archaic rigid account system. If they want to release more GaaS initiatives on PC with account integration , then well...they'll have to improve it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1787331667616829929
 
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prod said:
Well they backtracked pretty quickly. The biggest issue was disabling it early on, if they (Arrowhead) just kept it mandatory this would not even be a discussion.

If anything this should light a fire under Sony's ass to revamp their archaic rigid account system. If they want to release more GaaS initiatives on PC with account integration , then well...they'll have to improve it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1787331667616829929
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Good. Same happened with Tarkov last week and it is good that the players can stand up for what is right.

Hopefully other companies are taking note. Stop trying to fck your player base, your source of income.
 
dotdan said:
Good. Same happened with Tarkov last week and it is good that the players can stand up for what is right.

Hopefully other companies are taking note. Stop trying to fck your player base, your source of income.
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While I do think the whole thing is largely overblown (since it was a requirement from the start) I do agree, they have something unique going for them here. Best to leave it alone while it's working and not mess with it.
 
prod said:
Well they backtracked pretty quickly. The biggest issue was disabling it early on, if they (Arrowhead) just kept it mandatory this would not even be a discussion.

If anything this should light a fire under Sony's ass to revamp their archaic rigid account system. If they want to release more GaaS initiatives on PC with account integration , then well...they'll have to improve it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1787331667616829929
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The refunds must have hurt, and telling ukraine in current political mess to just 'buy a ps5 to register an account' is something they obviously didn't want to deal with
 
Temujin said:
The refunds must have hurt, and telling ukraine in current political mess to just 'buy a ps5 to register an account' is something they obviously didn't want to deal with
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It's a PR nightmare on all fronts, just reeks of incompetence. Happy they turned it around.
 
Well this one was on them. They were literally caught rewording their online FAQ during this mess. And just like that everyone now magically forgot about it already...

That said PS games will require PSN accounts on PC going forward starting with GoT. Of course they want you in the system. They literally built a PC app precisely for this purpose.

And I welcome that personally. Easier way to chat PS5 to PC. Won't have to log-in to Discord or touch the amateurish rubbish Xbox app that can't even sign me in when I open it or show my friends list without spamming me friend of friend suggestions when it does log me in then.
 
Rayne said:
That said PS games will require PSN accounts on PC going forward starting with GoT
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It's only required for the MP portion (legends mode) or if you want to use the overlay. And technically it was already required for HD2, Arrowhead disabled it shortly after release because their servers couldn't handle the load

https://twitter.com/x/status/1786462939748384943
 
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Rayne said:
Well this one was on them. They were literally caught rewording their online FAQ during this mess. And just like that everyone now magically forgot about it already...

That said PS games will require PSN accounts on PC going forward starting with GoT. Of course they want you in the system. They literally built a PC app precisely for this purpose.

And I welcome that personally. Easier way to chat PS5 to PC. Won't have to log-in to Discord or touch the amateurish rubbish Xbox app that can't even sign me in when I open it or show my friends list without spamming me friend of friend suggestions when it does log me in then.
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I don't think people are going to forget. Streisand effect and all. They have made it much more difficult to do it now.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1786817059864912278

All this is tbh is just a major failure of change management.
 
In time Sony will incentivize onboarding, enabling rewards like cosmetics and whatnot. Yeah, as much as people say they hate cosmetics they sure keep on buying it.

Amazon does the same with Prime Gaming and Twitch. Incentivized onboarding. I mean CDPR most recently said that they will never incentivize CP2077, yet, they did do it in partnership with Amazon when they launched Phantom Liberty.

For some reason people like their achievements.

Anyhow, I am not in the mind that the damage will be lasting. In time Sony will sell new titles on Steam which will require players to link to PSN at the get go to play multiplayer.

You all know what drops on the 16th.
 
The only reason people dont want to link their steam account (which has credit card info/personal address) to a PSN account because PSN get hacked surprisingly often.
 
Rickster said:
The only reason people dont want to link their steam account (which has credit card info/personal address) to a PSN account because PSN get hacked surprisingly often.
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I don't think that is a security risk. Valve is never going to be sharing billing data and personal addresses to anyone.
 
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