Help: Upgraded GPU now Windows is slow to Boot

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I have Z77A – G43 motherboard with an i5 – 3570k CPU with 8G of RAM that was running a GTX 560 quite well for a while. I recently upgraded the GPU to a GTX 1060 and now the PC takes more than 5 minutes to boot. Previously boot time was less than 30secs off an SSD with the old card. When switching the PC on I also noticed that the fans would spin up for a few seconds then switch off again. Spin up, then switch off. It is doing this about 3 or 4 times before staying on and going through the very slow boot cycle.
When the machine finally went into windows I updated the drivers for the new GPU, without uninstalling the old ones first. This had no effect as I was only getting 1 or 2 FPS in games. So I uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and did a clean install with no improvement whatsoever.
I checked in Device manager and an error was reported on the new card. Something about “This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. (code 12)”. So, I uninstalled and reinstalled the driver with Device manager and all is well again. Games are running great. Temperatures all stable.
So to test, I restarted the PC and the issue was back. 5minutes boot time.
I checked and updated my BIOS but that didn’t seem to have any effect. When I removed the GPU and ran the display off the MBU it was perfect. Nice, quick and snappy. Obviously, no gaming allowed. Unfortunately I didn’t have the old card at hand so I couldn’t retest it with that.
I don’t know how to fix this issue. Google has given me many options to try and I have tried most of them. Resetting the CMOS and fiddling with jumpers is my next option but getting to work this morning got in the way. I really wouldn’t want to do a clean Windows 10 install because I’ve read that it doesn’t always solve the issue. I’m even considering going to Matrix to see what they can do.
Any ideas mense would be greatly appreciated.
 
How big/old is your PSU?

Sounds like the problem starts before you get into windows so I would hesitate blaming drivers if your PC's boot process has changed...?
 
Pitbull said:
This,

Also make sure you have enough power to drive the new GPU correctly.
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The GTX 560 is
Code: 
Maximum Graphics Card Power (W) [B]150W[/B]
Minimum System Power Requirement (W) 450W
Two 6-pinSupplementary Power Connectors : Two 6-pin
[URL="http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560/specifications"]http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560/specifications[/URL]

While the GTX1060:
Code: 
Maximum Graphics Card Power (W) [B]120 W[/B]
Minimum System Power Requirement (W) 400 W
Supplementary Power Connectors 6-Pin : 6-Pin
[URL="http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-1060/specifications"]http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-1060/specifications[/URL]

He should be fine unless it is giving up life.
 
Any storage devices connected via usb (hard drives/sticks) that are plugged in? If so remove and check again.
 
Sounds like an issue with the card, test it on another pc, could also be that the card is drawing way more power than it needs to.
 
Johnatan56 said:
The GTX 560 is
Code: 
Maximum Graphics Card Power (W) [B]150W[/B]
Minimum System Power Requirement (W) 450W
Two 6-pinSupplementary Power Connectors : Two 6-pin
[URL="http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560/specifications"]http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560/specifications[/URL]

While the GTX1060:
Code: 
Maximum Graphics Card Power (W) [B]120 W[/B]
Minimum System Power Requirement (W) 400 W
Supplementary Power Connectors 6-Pin : 6-Pin
[URL="http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-1060/specifications"]http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-1060/specifications[/URL]

He should be fine unless it is giving up life.
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Faulty card then I suppose.

Fark me that uses little power... damn.

My AMD card requires a minimum of 450W
 
Please, no. I hope its not a faulty card. It did work perfectly once, when I had all the correct drivers.
I have an external hard drive connected but its only switched on when I do my backups. Its normally off.
the PSU is a Thermatake 550W (Not sure of the model number) and it is about 5 or 6 years old. It would be ironic if I needed to replace it because the main reason for going with the GTX 1060 and not the RX 480 was that the GTX needs 1x 6 pin connector and the RX needs 1x 8pin connector and my PSU ain't got no 8pins.
 
Pitbull said:
Faulty card then I suppose.

Fark me that uses little power... damn.

My AMD card requires a minimum of 450W
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The RX 480 has the same power requirements as the GTX 560.
I still have R9 280x's.
kang said:
Please, no. I hope its not a faulty card. It did work perfectly once, when I had all the correct drivers.
I have an external hard drive connected but its only switched on when I do my backups. Its normally off.
the PSU is a Thermatake 550W (Not sure of the model number) and it is about 5 or 6 years old. It would be ironic if I needed to replace it because the main reason for going with the GTX 1060 and not the RX 480 was that the GTX needs 1x 6 pin connector and the RX needs 1x 8pin connector and my PSU ain't got no 8pins.
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Try a stress test on the GTX 1060 and see what the power consumption is like, I think GPU-Z should work out, under % TDP. If it hits 100% and your system is still on, your PSU is probably fine, though you can try a CPU stress test at the same time as well, that would push your system to the max it would ever go.

Btw there are cheap molex to 8 pin connectors that you can get. (EDIT: I am using this: http://titan-ice.co.za/2x-4-pin-molex-8-pin-pcie-power-converter.html)
 
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PSU should be fine then unless age has taken its toll.

Win 10 used to have some issues where it installs the latest drivers (the ones it deems the latest one) no matter which drivers you installed? Not sure if these problems still exist (I'm sticking to Win 7 for now) but before you clean up your drivers with one of the suggested apps above try disabling the auto driver installation just to be sure.
 
kang said:
Please, no. I hope its not a faulty card. It did work perfectly once, when I had all the correct drivers.
I have an external hard drive connected but its only switched on when I do my backups. Its normally off.
the PSU is a Thermatake 550W (Not sure of the model number) and it is about 5 or 6 years old. It would be ironic if I needed to replace it because the main reason for going with the GTX 1060 and not the RX 480 was that the GTX needs 1x 6 pin connector and the RX needs 1x 8pin connector and my PSU ain't got no 8pins.
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Just make sure it is and any other usb storage is disconnected as a starting point. I have a external usb hd.
This can certainly slow down your boot a lot, does it on my machine.
Theres a bios setting somewhere about usb storage but I just make sure its all off before I boot.

Anyway, good luck, hope you find sort the issue.
 
Is the long boot time due to slow POST, or slow Windows boot?

The 'Code 12' error message you got suggests a possible hardware conflict. You may want to disable the onboard display in the BIOS and/or check for IRQ conflicts.

Other things worth trying are:

1. Check if your BIOS has a 'PCI Priority' setting and try changing that,
2. Check if your BIOS has an 'Optimized Defaults' or similar setting and choose that.
 
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oldhat said:
Is the long boot time due to slow POST, or slow Windows boot?

The 'Code 12' error message you got suggests a possible hardware conflict. You may want to disable the onboard display in the BIOS and/or check for IRQ conflicts.

Other things worth trying are:

1. Check if your BIOS has a 'PCI Priority' setting and try changing that,
2. Check if your BIOS has an 'Optimized Defaults' or similar setting and choose that.
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Sorry, I don't know the difference between slow post and slow Windows boot.

Our IT guy at work tested the card in his PC and at first it took a long time to boot but once the drivers were loaded the card worked perfectly and stayed working.

So its clearly not the card. I still have to try resetting the CMOS and a few other things in the BIOS. Looks like I have some late nights ahead of me.
 
kang said:
Sorry, I don't know the difference between slow post and slow Windows boot.
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from the point where you push the power button to the point where the windows splash screen or logo appears, thats post time.. from the time the windows logo appears up until you have logged in, thats windows boot time.. what it comes down to is this, if your post time is really long or much longer than normal, then there is a hardware level issue that is causing things to slow down.. if the post time is normal like it has always been before the new card but the windows boot time is now slower than what it always has been, then there is a windows related issue slowing things down.. if they are both slow then its a mix of the two, but sorting out the hardware related issue at post time will more than likely improve the windows boot time as well in this case..
 
Its working! I had to update the BIOS. I thought I did because my version was 2.1 and the new version is 2.10. I thought the PC just dropped the zero. Silly of me.
So now, I got a GTX 560 for sale.
 
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