High School Initiation

Aeron said:
@morgoth. Don't you mean "buk en maak 'n affie vriend"? :D

Initiation has a simple purpose, it's like natural selection: Survivial of the fittest. Because it's usually them little okes that get all the heat, the poor nerds who can't fight for themselves. **** up the weak, build on the strong and create a perfect world. Idealistic, but slightly Nazi.

Today, initiation is just used as way of telling new kids who's the boss and who's the minion. And it's only a tradition because people hated it so much when it was done to them, the only way they can release that is by doing it to others small ones. The reason given is usually: "It was done to us, we'll do it to others." Pure genius.

There is one argument actually for initiation. And it's that it teaches the newcomers "respect" for the matrics and the school. However, if abuse is necessary to teach them respect, that school, along with its matrics, have long lost anything deserving of respect.
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I wouldn't put it that way. It's more like telling us the seniors were sadists. At my school, even the masters liked to torture is with cold showers on a wintry morning :o But then he was the religious instruction guy ...

We didn't have initiation as such, but rather an extensive campaign of brutalization throughout the term. We were very pleased to go home a few times a year. Funnily enough, we never mentioned a thing to our parents.
 
Pro!

At my school they called of initiation for one year, and during that year there was a drug bust. 8 kids were asked to leave the school... they really were terrible! So they put it back on... and this years new boys are such a nice bunch of guys they never really got anything... xsept for the cocky ones who were straightened out immediately, lovely system!
 
Macho male high school initiation = repressed homosexual frustration. Yup, all those after sports showers and manly scrums where the guys grab each others' ... ahem.

:)
 
PeterCH said:
Macho male high school initiation = repressed homosexual frustration. Yup, all those after sports showers and manly scrums where the guys grab each others' ... ahem.

:)
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Daily nekkid showers it was for us. 30 seconds in, rinse and then out....:sick:
 
naked showers :O sounds all manly, best way to handle initiation if your in grade 8 or so is just to ignore it , there is not much the metrics can do apart from yell while you laugh at them, most of the guys trying to enforce it cant beat someone up by themselves
 
Morgoth said:
naked showers :O sounds all manly, best way to handle initiation if your in grade 8 or so is just to ignore it , there is not much the metrics can do apart from yell while you laugh at them, most of the guys trying to enforce it cant beat someone up by themselves
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You wear a costume?
 
This is what happens to high school initiators... the culprits who inflict bodily pain on others:

They go on to be the arrogant pricks on South African roads, that drive on your ass, hiding behind sunglasses and a shaved head, thinking they are all macho with their 4x4. The same lot who see it fit to drive at 183km/h, and the same lot who ride bikes and use the "Think Bike" bullsh1t campaign as a cover to excuse their unruly behavior.

They become the sort that will openly brawl in front of their family at the shopping centres over a parking space or because someone dared exit the parking before they did.

The same old low-IQ twits I've always seen all my life long, that never amount to anything except washed-up rugby players and weekend brawlers at the bars, or even worse, the bouncers that beat people to within inches of their lives at the nation's nightclubs.

I think this initiation bullsh1t needs to be banned, there is enough violence and people being made to feel inferior and being shown "who is boss" by the ANC to last this nation a lifetime!
 
When I went to Highschool I was in a boarding school. The whole of the standard 6 year was initiation. Standard 6's were treated like slaves. Each one was assigned to a matric and basically you were their maid. You had to make up his bed in the mornings and sometimes carry his books from the boarding house to school. Other than that, any other matric could demand anything of you. There was the physical beating side of things as well. Its generally fine, but you always get one dude that takes the **** overboard. Beating guys with a cricket bat and trying to break the bat. picking people up over your head and throwing them to the ground. There is a fine line, and some okes just cant see it.
 
My school had initiation but it was taken way over board, being in a Public school over populated with Coloureds, it was difficult to avoid them taking it to far, luckily for me I am big built so never had a problem.
 
Natas said:
When I went to Highschool I was in a boarding school. The whole of the standard 6 year was initiation. Standard 6's were treated like slaves. Each one was assigned to a matric and basically you were their maid. You had to make up his bed in the mornings and sometimes carry his books from the boarding house to school. Other than that, any other matric could demand anything of you. There was the physical beating side of things as well. Its generally fine, but you always get one dude that takes the **** overboard. Beating guys with a cricket bat and trying to break the bat. picking people up over your head and throwing them to the ground. There is a fine line, and some okes just cant see it.
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What surprises me is that this happens at high school. Primary/prep school one could see an explanation such as immaturity or whatever, but HIGHSCHOOL??!
 
Sackboy said:
What surprises me is that this happens at high school. Primary/prep school one could see an explanation such as immaturity or whatever, but HIGHSCHOOL??!
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High School = morons. Primary school = morons but need mommy to wipe butt.
Not much difference. Not sure why you're suprised....
 
I don't see why so many people have a problem with initiations - provided it gets done properly, and is properly regulated.

And before people start going "Yeah ... you're a jock ... you just needed to pick on the small ones ... and when you were in std 6 they left you alone" etc etc and all that bullsh*t - I need to point out the fact that I was one of the nerds, as a matter of fact, before my growth spurt took place - I was officially the 3rd smallest in the class - including the girls. So the jock argument doesn't carry water.

I also didn't take part in the initiation of Std 6's when I was in matric ... so the argument of - well it was done to us so we're going to do it to them - is also not going to carry much weight with me.

Our school's initiation was organised by the prefects - while being monitored by the teachers. I wasn't a prefect - and to be honest - my attitude to school was moderately apathetic, so I didn't really care. But all the matrics were expected to be friendly and involved with the Std 6's ... and it showed in their attitudes towards us through the year. I had a number of them become friends as a result of my interactions with them.

Our initiation lasted 2 weeks. We had to wear a big nametag (OMG how embarrasing :/), and of course, we had to stop and greet the matrics whenever we saw them - so degrading - yeah right ...

Other than that we had various contests organised - we had a sleepover at the school one weekend (with the prefects organising the scariest movies they could dig out at the time [Pet Cemetary FTW!!!]) - and a bunch of other events and contests.

At the end of the two weeks we got rid of the nametags and we were accepted as "official" members of the student body.

So yes, there were one or two things that could be mildly embarrassing - but you would have to be a truly insecure little clot if you were going to let it go to your head. We were encouraged to approach the matrics if we had any problems - which did happen, as some of the Std 8's and 9's especially liked the idea of taking a "personal initiation" upon themselves - any incidents like these were quickly dealt with.

My final point - the initiation was dropped a few years after I matriculated. And it shows - the grade 8's have no respect for any of the older students, much less the now very powerless prefect body - and since the groups ahead of them didn't have the initiation either - the attitude goes both ways. Yes - I can just see how our initiation was a bad thing.

For those of you who had a tough initiation and actual bullying - sorry to hear that. Now suck it up and stop whining like spoilt brats - I'm sure it happened years ago and if you're still carrying a chip on your shoulder about it, it doesn't say much about your maturity.
 
I was at boarding school, and as Std 6 students we did have sorts of initiation, but most of it was quite positive. We had to learn about things like the history of the school, and we had to learn the names of all the rankholders and be able to greet them by name.

We also had a fagging system, which could be seen to be like a slave-master relationship by outsiders. However, it was more of a mentor system despite the other stuff, and most people got along well with their fagmasters and kept in touch after they left.

Obviously, there will be times when people will take things too far, but having seen what some people were like who came into the school subsequent to std 6 and how often they were huge pricks made me realise that it is a good system, although one that can easily be abused.

I think the main things it teaches is respect for elders.

I wasn't a prefect by the way.
 
I was initiated 10 years ago when I entered high school. For 2 weeks, it was basically be a mild servant to the matrics. Go to the tuck for them, carry bags around and so on. One day we had to wear name boards and dummies. Other times it simple stuff. We always had to greet the matrics. End of 2 weeks we had a sleepover, where we played sports, watched movies, and really early in the morning we were taken to the school theatre where they scared us with a break in story, and made us drink an evil concoction of tomato, toothpasts, onion, peppermint syrup or something, the list goes on.

After that, we were members of the school, and that was that. Some of the grade became vrot apples, but in general it was a good thing for us. I really looked up to those kids in matric, they were a great bunch. After them, things started going south. All respect was lost.

So I'm more for that kind of orientation type thing than out and out initiation where some sort of physical stuff is involved.
 
shadowfox said:
If it was properly done there wouldn't be any fear.
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define properly, intuition is a stupid thing, and the most pathetic part of all is that ST6's who actually follow these tasks, many of us refused to do it back then nothing happens , its childish anyone who tries to prove his manhood is quite a big coward , he cannot pick on someone his own size, the same thing with the varsity intuition in residences its so retarded and yet people keep doing it.
 
You're missing the point - it's not about proving their damn manhood.

This was organised by the prefect body - monitored by the teachers. Did you not read my post? It's quite a big one - hard to miss.

Of course, calling it an initiation is a bit far out, its closer to orientation. Did you have a bit of a hard time with yours? Shame. Cry me a river, why don't you?
 
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