Home Affairs 'place keepers' illegal

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Pietermaritzburg - The Department of Home Affairs in KwaZulu-Natal has said it is investigating allegations that officials are involved in selling “numbers” to people queuing outside to enter their offices.

Outraged citizens who visited the Home Affairs offices on Church Street in Pietermaritzburg approached The Witness to complain that officials at the office “sold” numbers.

A resident, who did not want to be named, said one of the staffers had offered to “organise” a number for her for R150. “I was there last Friday and got turned away. When I was about to leave, one of the officials said I should leave copies of my documents. She offered to organise a number for me for the following day. She told me I had to pay.”

The resident said she believed some staff members were deliberately “slowing down the system” to make money off them.

Home Affairs KZN provincial manager Cyril Mncwabe said handing out of numbers posed a problem and they were currently investigating officials who allegedly sold numbers to people.

He said the service at Home Affairs should not be paid for.

Meanwhile, Mncwabe cautioned people to be aware that they should not pay for any services outside the Home Affairs offices.

The Witness was also alerted to the fact that there were people holding up spaces in the queues for others in exchange for money outside the Church Street Home Affairs office.

A resident who wished to remain anonymous as she does not want to be victimised, said she was approached by a woman from an agency who told her to make use of their service.

The resident from Imbali said last Thursday, she had woken up at 5 am thinking she was getting a head start in the long queue to make an identity document application for her 17-year-old son who will be going to Grade 12 next year.

“I arrived at Home Affairs before 8 am and stood in the queue for hours only to be told at 2 pm that only the first 20 people will be allowed to go inside. The rest of us were turned away.”

Not giving up, the woman said last Friday she returned to the offices again an hour earlier hoping she would be able to get in. “There were more than 10 people holding up spaces for others in front of me. It is very unfair because we wake up early and still cannot go inside.

“It seems like the only people who go in are the ones who either pay for tickets or buy spaces.”

Another resident said the reason the staff deliberately go on “slow mode” is to protect the income of the “place keepers” in the queue.
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More at: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/place-keepers-illegal-20171227
 
The comrades learned from Eskom.
Bad enough to profit from others misery, but now you have public servants sabotaging public services to milk the public just like their bosses.
SA is screwed.
 
F**k this! If they can make my home affairs trip easier and faster, I will pay them whatever.

Here in Durbs, going to a certain station to renew a car license is a day-out trip. You wait no shorter than 6 hours. I will pay any bribe asked just to get in, be assisted, renew my license and get out in less than 20 minutes.
 
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Adrianax said:
F**k this! If they can make my home affairs trip easier and faster, I will pay them whatever.

Here in Durbs, going to a certain station to renew a car license is a day-out trip. You wait no shorter than 6 hours. I will pay any bribe asked just to get in, be assisted, renew my license and get out in less than 20 minutes.
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...thereby perpetuating the problem.
 
Adrianax said:
F**k this! If they can make my home affairs trip easier and faster, I will pay them whatever.

Here in Durbs, going to a certain station to renew a car license is a day-out trip. You wait no shorter than 6 hours. I will pay any bribe asked just to get in, be assisted, renew my license and get out in less than 20 minutes.
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You know you can renew your car license at the Post Office, Find a tiny one that's never busy.
 
pinball wizard said:
Nope. Number 1 told us to employ African solutions.
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This too. African solutions for African problems. Besides, did he not also say corruption was a Western concept? Trying to fit in and change - damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
Adrianax said:
This too. African solutions for African problems. Besides, did he not also say corruption was a Western concept? Trying to fit in and change - damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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When it suits you? And no, you're not trying to fit in. You're taking advantage of a corrupt system; making you no different.

"African solutions" is a phrase loved by the corrupt and repressive. The so called African problems aren't unique to the continent. The only difference between us and the rest of the world is our leaders inclination to cling to power and looting.
 
ForceFate said:
When it suits you? And no, you're not trying to fit in. You're taking advantage of a corrupt system; making you no different.
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Yes, yes.... whatever. Firstly, not taking advantage of a corrupt system, but rather taking advantage of a solution offered to a fallen, inefficient service delivery by a useless government organization. Secondly, speeding up efficiency so that I could get in and out and then focus on my business and generate more income so that I could pay the salaries of those useless twats who seeks employment and have no ambition to start their own businesses and make a living for themselves.

South Africa has become a queuing nation and I will have no part of that. I simply do not have the time.

ForceFate said:
"African solutions" is a phrase loved by the corrupt and repressive. The so called African problems aren't unique to the continent. The only difference between us and the rest of the world is our leaders inclination to cling to power and looting.
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Jumping around the continent or even world is irrelevant to me. I am here. Faced with the same problems than anyone else here. I am working on a solution to my problems here. Not in Africa or elsewhere. So, the sentimental BS is nothing to me.
 
Saber_rider45 said:
You know you can renew your car license at the Post Office, Find a tiny one that's never busy.
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No issues with that. But, unfortunately not always possible. Need to be back at the original center every 4 years for a drivers' license, which just recently took a friend from 06:15 to 17:10 to complete. Nah, I rather go to them, pay the bribe and get it over and done with in minutes. They sweep you past that crowd queuing like a VIP and before you know it, you are sitting inside your car driving out. Who ever says money can't buy happiness? Probably those who do not have it.
 
Adrianax said:
Yes, yes.... whatever. Firstly, not taking advantage of a corrupt system, but rather taking advantage of a solution offered to a fallen, inefficient service delivery by a useless government organization. Secondly, speeding up efficiency so that I could get in and out and then focus on my business and generate more income so that I could pay the salaries of those useless twats who seeks employment and have no ambition to start their own businesses and make a living for themselves.

South Africa has become a queuing nation and I will have no part of that. I simply do not have the time.



Jumping around the continent or even world is irrelevant to me. I am here. Faced with the same problems than anyone else here. I am working on a solution to my problems here. Not in Africa or elsewhere. So, the sentimental BS is nothing to me.
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At least y out admit to this and not the "African solutions" garbage you're trying to convince us you're applying.
 
Adrianax said:
No issues with that. But, unfortunately not always possible. Need to be back at the original center every 4 years for a drivers' license, which just recently took a friend from 06:15 to 17:10 to complete. Nah, I rather go to them, pay the bribe and get it over and done with in minutes. They sweep you past that crowd queuing like a VIP and before you know it, you are sitting inside your car driving out. Who ever says money can't buy happiness? Probably those who do not have it.
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It can be done at any centre within SA

Then in future, no blaming the politicians because they do pretty much what you're doing and buying convenience.
 
ForceFate said:
It can be done at any centre within SA

Then in future, no blaming the politicians because they do pretty much what you're doing and buying convenience.
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Would not have been necessary to buy convenience or travel thousands of kilometers looking for other centers, if they were efficient at service delivery. But, as we all know, they do not care about efficiency, because it would require efficient staff and that is not a possibility at this point in time.
 
Cray said:
Even a busier one like Westville post office - took me all of 10 minutes.
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Precisely. My last license disc renewal took me less than 15mins at a packed centre. My fiancée did hers at a relatively empty Silver Oaks, where we spent over 60mins on the queue.
 
Adrianax said:
Would not have been necessary to buy convenience or travel thousands of kilometers looking for other centers, if they were efficient at service delivery. But, as we all know, they do not care about efficiency, because it would require efficient staff and that is not a possibility at this point in time.
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The last time I spent considerable time at a licensing centre was when I did my learners, followed by when their systems went offline while we were waiting on the queue.
 
Adrianax said:
No issues with that. But, unfortunately not always possible. Need to be back at the original center every 4 years for a drivers' license, which just recently took a friend from 06:15 to 17:10 to complete. Nah, I rather go to them, pay the bribe and get it over and done with in minutes. They sweep you past that crowd queuing like a VIP and before you know it, you are sitting inside your car driving out. Who ever says money can't buy happiness? Probably those who do not have it.
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I've never renewed a license in person for the past 20 years. For 3 vehicles, that's 60 trips saved. Always got my license by post.
 
Which specific center is this adrianax??? Redid my drivers license last year and it took all of 60 minutes and the center was busy all hell
 
ToxicBunny said:
Which specific center is this adrianax??? Redid my drivers license last year and it took all of 60 minutes and the center was busy all hell
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You can also get your eyes tested at an optometrist to save time, some even do it for free.
 
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