How does your "normal" Phone Number work over fibre?

You lift the handset, listen for dial tone, phone the number and wait for the other person to answer.

Easy peasy....

:p
 
MickeyD said:
You lift the handset, listen for dial tone, phone the number and wait for the other person to answer.

Easy peasy....

:p
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Best. Answer. Ever.

The number usually gets ported (not always, but it can be ported) to a service provider (if you choose a new service provider), and they will provide you with the SIP account details to authenticate your VOIP phone with. Generally they will log the port request with their upstream service provider.
 
I think he is talking about the Telkom rollout where its replaces the copper network in last mile.

Does your old phone handset still work? Do you still have a RJ11 port to plug into?
 
1234567 said:
Best. Answer. Ever.

The number usually gets ported (not always, but it can be ported) to a service provider (if you choose a new service provider), and they will provide you with the SIP account details to authenticate your VOIP phone with. Generally they will log the port request with their upstream service provider.
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:D

Thanks.

So do you need new (VOIP) telephones?

/looks at 3 cordless phones scattered around the house.
 
supersunbird said:
I think he is talking about the Telkom rollout where its replaces the copper network in last mile.

Does your old phone handset still work? Do you still have a RJ11 port to plug into?
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In addition, in a [-]blackout [/-] loadshedding situation, will your phone still work? (assuming you don't have a generator, UPS, etc)
 
I don't know ..... We have not been faced with this issue in our area ... yet ... BUT I would resist giving up my old reliable copper connection without a fight .... even if fibre is rolled out in our area. .....
 
AfricanTech said:
:D

Thanks.

So do you need new (VOIP) telephones?

/looks at 3 cordless phones scattered around the house.
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No you dont need VOIP

Your ONT (or is it the router) has an analog point.

You plug your phone in there and done and dusted
If you have one of those 3 cordless things then you plug your base station into the ONT

The only small print is as follows
Currently you have to be on Telkom ISP to be able to keep Telkom Voice
Apparently there are plans to allow ISPs to resell Telkom Voice but nothing concrete yet
 
AfricanTech said:
In addition, in a [-]blackout [/-] loadshedding situation, will your phone still work? (assuming you don't have a generator, UPS, etc)
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Yes exactly ...... that is why I am not sure about the whole business. the joke is in the organisation I was working in last year, they "rolled out VOIP". I was the only on our floor that not so politely informed them what they could do with their VOIP phone ..

Wasn't a week before the first "incident" happened. Then the rule was changed. Fire Marshalls and other OHSA appointed persons were put back on "analogue" phones in their offices ......


I just sat back laughed .....
 
daniellgr said:
Yes exactly ...... that is why I am not sure about the whole business. the joke is in the organisation I was working in last year, they "rolled out VOIP". I was the only on our floor that not so politely informed them what they could do with their VOIP phone ..

Wasn't a week before the first "incident" happened. Then the rule was changed. Fire Marshalls and other OHSA appointed persons were put back on "analogue" phones in their offices ......


I just sat back laughed .....
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You've got life skills :D
 
SineadB said:
No you dont need VOIP

Your ONT (or is it the router) has an analog point.

You plug your phone in there and done and dusted
If you have one of those 3 cordless things then you plug your base station into the ONT

The only small print is as follows
Currently you have to be on Telkom ISP to be able to keep Telkom Voice
Apparently there are plans to allow ISPs to resell Telkom Voice but nothing concrete yet
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Hmm, zis is vhy I haf asked ze question in ze OP!

Thanks :D

I suspected something like this.

The issue with the cordless things is that only two of them share a base station - the third is standalone. Of course there is the issue of having to be on Telkom ISP to keep your voice line as well.

@Sinbad, this is why fibre still falls into the luxury category for me.

Ai, the hidden costs behind upgrades.
 
daniellgr said:
I don't know ..... We have not been faced with this issue in our area ... yet ... BUT I would resist giving up my old reliable copper connection without a fight .... even if fibre is rolled out in our area. .....
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Problem is that you then have to pay for the fibre and the copper
 
How does your "normal" Phone Number work over fibre?

AfricanTech said:
Hmm, zis is vhy I haf asked ze question in ze OP!

Thanks :D

I suspected something like this.

The issue with the cordless things is that only two of them share a base station - the third is standalone. Of course there is the issue of having to be on Telkom ISP to keep your voice line as well.

@Sinbad, this is why fibre still falls into the luxury category for me.

Ai, the hidden costs behind upgrades.
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Well, I am cancelling my Telkom copper altogether. Saving of R200 odd per month. I have ups and generator for when Eskom fails....
Add in R85pm for the voip account with Telkom number ported, and calls being pretty damned cheap.
So I'm even better off...
 
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Sinbad said:
Well, I am cancelling my Telkom copper altogether. Saving of R200 odd per month. I have ups and generator for when Eskom fails....
Add in R85pm for the voip account with Telkom number ported, and calls being pretty damned cheap.
So I'm even better off...
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Oh ho! So you can port your Telkom number. Good to know.

So, I presume that to keep your phone line up during a power failure, the phone plugged into the Fibre Router (ONT I guess) and the Fibre Router itself needs to be connected to your offline power source.
 
SineadB said:
The only small print is as follows
Currently you have to be on Telkom ISP to be able to keep Telkom Voice
Apparently there are plans to allow ISPs to resell Telkom Voice but nothing concrete yet
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Seriously!?

Can you point me to the location where this is mentioned? I wanted to cancel my 100GB softcap account with them, but if that's the case, then I suppose I won't be cancelling it any time soon :mad:
 
SineadB said:
No you dont need VOIP

Your ONT (or is it the router) has an analog point.

You plug your phone in there and done and dusted
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How does the fibre line provide power to the phone? Or does the ONT have it's own power supply? If so the loadshedding problem remains.
 
StoneCold said:
Seriously!?

Can you point me to the location where this is mentioned? I wanted to cancel my 100GB softcap account with them, but if that's the case, then I suppose I won't be cancelling it any time soon :mad:
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Nothing to be mad about. You just need to appreciate what it means to move to fibre, and what the "unintended" consequences are.

ScottulusMaximus said:
How does the fibre line provide power to the phone? Or does the ONT have it's own power supply? If so the loadshedding problem remains.
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Telephone services based on a copper connection, provide power to the phone over the telephone line, which means your communication service is independent of local power , IF you have a good old fashioned telephone.

IF you switch to a total fibre connection, and your telephone service is now a VOIP service, you are responsible for providing the (ONT) with power, IF you do not have a "no break supply" ( UPS, backup batteries, generator etc or some level of power protection), then when there is a power break you have nothing ........
 
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