How it feels to learn JavaScript in 2016

My cure for this is to stay far, far away from frontend dev.
 
What happens? Awesome tooling and libraries? Yeah, that is terrible.

Who wants innovation and progress anyway. Long live ie6 and ecmascript 3.
 
This here is why at 25 I'm already preparing to retire at 55. Right now I have to deal with a pom, karma, gulp, bower, node and all sorts of stuff just to display a webpage.
 
I've been trying to learn Redux with React over the past few days, but I am going to have to abandon it and just sprinkle jQuery everywhere because at some point I have to deliver a product, not just endlessly click links to half-baked tutorials and install npm modules.
 
Rewinder said:
I've been trying to learn Redux with React over the past few days, but I am going to have to abandon it and just sprinkle jQuery everywhere because at some point I have to deliver a product, not just endlessly click links to half-baked tutorials and install npm modules.
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I assume you have watched the mini series on egghead.io by dan abramov - https://egghead.io/courses/getting-started-with-redux

Even if you are half joking, it is a nice intro for anyone else :)
 
Just use something like dojo or extjs and be done with it (granted it's not that good for websites)
 
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Or angular 1. Super easy to get up and running, especially if you just use a simple controller <---> service architecture. Add ui-router and you are smiling. No need for any gulp, babel, webpack, etc
 
Good article. All the javascript choices for a startup template make all the decisions so subjective. Not to mention how the popularity changes from year to year.
 
I recently completed a tutorial on HTML, CSS and PHP. I felt so clever. I thought responsive design was easy.
You people just scared me with all this new stuff. Gonna hide in my cave again.
 
i_need_adsl said:
I recently completed a tutorial on HTML, CSS and PHP. I felt so clever. I thought responsive design was easy.
You people just scared me with all this new stuff. Gonna hide in my cave again.
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This stuff isn't new. It's just become the new standard for greenfield websites
 
So many external frameworks = so much risk...
Don't use something you can't maintain.
 
Hackson said:
This here is why at 25 I'm already preparing to retire at 55. Right now I have to deal with a pom, karma, gulp, bower, node and all sorts of stuff just to display a webpage.
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Use php and jQuery instead?

I like the JavaScript environment as now if it is mandatory.

Server-side you can use php instead of node.

Front-end, you're not forced to use more than jQuery, but if you want to, you have tons of options.
 
How's JavaScript for back end stuff? I'm thinking of using Node but not sure. Need to create a REST API.
 
Archie1 said:
How's JavaScript for back end stuff? I'm thinking of using Node but not sure. Need to create a REST API.
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I'm not sure javascript is meant for back end at all, which probably means it's really unsuitable. REST is so easy with jaxrs
 
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