How it feels to learn JavaScript in 2016

[flippakitten]

https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f#.jsg5l9jih

It's quite sad that this is pretty accurate.

 

[spyketdog]

https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f#.jsg5l9jih

It's quite sad that this is pretty accurate.

Yep it is very accurate. But then again Facebook is involved somewhere in all this. Give a man-child to much money and this happens.

 

[Beachless]

This is so true.

 

[Necropolis]

My cure for this is to stay far, far away from frontend dev.

 

[_kabal_]

What happens? Awesome tooling and libraries? Yeah, that is terrible.

Who wants innovation and progress anyway. Long live ie6 and ecmascript 3.

 

[halfmoonforever]

? Maybe for someone with ADD yea...

 

[[)roi(]]

Three things:

• It's disingenuous to lump functional programming with Javascript and the React mess.
• Reason why React Native is going to end poorly for many developers (i.e. best avoided) -- https://arielelkin.github.io/articles/why-im-not-a-react-native-developer
• Best not to get too invested when everyone actively trying to replace it. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/the-web-is-getting-its-bytecode-webassembly/

 

[Hackson]

This here is why at 25 I'm already preparing to retire at 55. Right now I have to deal with a pom, karma, gulp, bower, node and all sorts of stuff just to display a webpage.

 

[Rewinder]

I've been trying to learn Redux with React over the past few days, but I am going to have to abandon it and just sprinkle jQuery everywhere because at some point I have to deliver a product, not just endlessly click links to half-baked tutorials and install npm modules.

 

[_kabal_]

I've been trying to learn Redux with React over the past few days, but I am going to have to abandon it and just sprinkle jQuery everywhere because at some point I have to deliver a product, not just endlessly click links to half-baked tutorials and install npm modules.

I assume you have watched the mini series on egghead.io by dan abramov - https://egghead.io/courses/getting-started-with-redux

Even if you are half joking, it is a nice intro for anyone else

 

[xumwun]

Just use something like dojo or extjs and be done with it (granted it's not that good for websites)

 

[_kabal_]

Or angular 1. Super easy to get up and running, especially if you just use a simple controller <---> service architecture. Add ui-router and you are smiling. No need for any gulp, babel, webpack, etc

 

[skimread]

Good article. All the javascript choices for a startup template make all the decisions so subjective. Not to mention how the popularity changes from year to year.

 

[i_need_adsl]

I recently completed a tutorial on HTML, CSS and PHP. I felt so clever. I thought responsive design was easy.
You people just scared me with all this new stuff. Gonna hide in my cave again.

 

[skimread]

I recently completed a tutorial on HTML, CSS and PHP. I felt so clever. I thought responsive design was easy.
You people just scared me with all this new stuff. Gonna hide in my cave again.

This stuff isn't new. It's just become the new standard for greenfield websites

 

[[)roi(]]

So many external frameworks = so much risk...
Don't use something you can't maintain.

 

[rward]

This here is why at 25 I'm already preparing to retire at 55. Right now I have to deal with a pom, karma, gulp, bower, node and all sorts of stuff just to display a webpage.

Use php and jQuery instead?

I like the JavaScript environment as now if it is mandatory.

Server-side you can use php instead of node.

Front-end, you're not forced to use more than jQuery, but if you want to, you have tons of options.

 

[Rewinder]

I assume you have watched the mini series on egghead.io by dan abramov - https://egghead.io/courses/getting-started-with-redux

Even if you are half joking, it is a nice intro for anyone else

Couldn't get past the async calls in the written tutorial.

 

[Archie1]

How's JavaScript for back end stuff? I'm thinking of using Node but not sure. Need to create a REST API.

 

[zippy]

How's JavaScript for back end stuff? I'm thinking of using Node but not sure. Need to create a REST API.

I'm not sure javascript is meant for back end at all, which probably means it's really unsuitable. REST is so easy with jaxrs